David Bell is Awful.

[westofyou]

Or because everyone throws 100 out of the pen now instead of having David Weathers throwing 89

Geno also has always struck out, he has 4 of the highest K years in Reds history, he strikes out more than Dunn add that fact to an all time low in BABIP and it's a disaster

Worst BABIP in MLB 200 PAs or more

Player	BAbip
Jarred Kelenic	.189
Eugenio Suarez	.189
Cody Bellinger	.203
Yasmani Grandal	.204

Meanwhile Tucker Barnhart is having perhaps his best hitting season and his BABIP is .354

[Tony Cloninger]

I am not talking about Suarez, I am talking about Castellanos, Votto, et al...the assertation was made that they are not hitting well this week because they don't like seeing Suarez and Aquino in the lineup and are therefore too discouraged to hit well.

Source?

[westofyou]

Source?

There is none, the assumption is that that’s going on because someone once played baseball and they felt that way.

https://youtu.be/KEP1acj29-Y

[Tom Servo]

Geno also has always struck out, he has 4 of the highest K years in Reds history, he strikes out more than Dunn add that fact to an all time low in BABIP and it's a disaster

Worst BABIP in MLB 200 PAs or more

Player	BAbip
Jarred Kelenic	.189
Eugenio Suarez	.189
Cody Bellinger	.203
Yasmani Grandal	.204

Meanwhile Tucker Barnhart is having perhaps his best hitting season and his BABIP is .354

Kind of flown under the radar how bad he's bad when he was supposed to be the next big thing, they should call him Jarred Kolonic because he stinks!!

[kaldaniels]

Kind of flown under the radar how bad he's bad when he was supposed to be the next big thing, they should call him Jarred Kolonic because he stinks!!

Yasmani is a freak.

But the other 3 are arguably the biggest disappointments in the league this year.

So is it the chicken or the egg when it comes to BABIP and a player’s poor production?

[Tom Servo]

Yasmani is a freak.

But the other 3 are arguably the biggest disappointments in the league this year.

So is it the chicken or the egg when it comes to BABIP and a player’s poor production?

Yeah I think BABIP is largely irrelevant when it comes to those specific guys. I honestly haven't seen enough of Bellinger to diagnose the issue but Kelenic is simple overmatched and Suarez has basically taken the Todd Frazier profile (weak contact/high strikeout/HR or bust) to it's highest extreme.

[westofyou]

Yasmani is a freak.

But the other 3 are arguably the biggest disappointments in the league this year.

So is it the chicken or the egg when it comes to BABIP and a player’s poor production?

It’s a combo I think, Bellinger and Suarez are off shoulder injuries which means they might only be comfy approaching an AB one way and thus failing in every other one

[OldFashionedRed]

Any chance geno might man up and quit for the season...for the good of everyone?

If I was him? Nope. He's having way too much fun. Get'tem next time!

[KronoRed]

Any chance geno might man up and quit for the season...for the good of everyone?

How is quitting manning up?

Him still playing is all on the Reds.

[TRF]

This is just my opinion on Geno.

He's trying to homer his way out of a slump. He just needs to barrel. That's it. Nothing more. Just hit the ball hard. He needs a swing makeover, and a bit better understanding of how to recognize what he can't do.

Now my opinion on Bell. He got his team in the playoffs last year under trying circumstances, lost a brother this year and has his team in the playoff hunt. despite the FO giving him, at best, a bad bullpen. It's a little better now, in theory, but it is also a sample size mirage to a certain extent.

And he's had some bad luck too.

Bell is not the problem. Winker being out is a problem. Mahle having trouble getting through 5 is a problem. Geno/Moose is a problem. No real CF is a problem.

And yet despite those problems, the Reds are in the playoff hunt.

pfft.

[SomeCallMeTim]

How is quitting manning up?

Him still playing is all on the Reds.

It is mostly on the Reds to let this debacle continue as long as it has.

However, Lou Gehrig did have the decency to “quit” and get help when he realized something was wrong and he was hurting the team.

[UK Reds Fan]

This is just my opinion on Geno.

He's trying to homer his way out of a slump. He just needs to barrel. That's it. Nothing more. Just hit the ball hard. He needs a swing makeover, and a bit better understanding of how to recognize what he can't do.

Now my opinion on Bell. He got his team in the playoffs last year under trying circumstances, lost a brother this year and has his team in the playoff hunt. despite the FO giving him, at best, a bad bullpen. It's a little better now, in theory, but it is also a sample size mirage to a certain extent.

And he's had some bad luck too.

Bell is not the problem. Winker being out is a problem. Mahle having trouble getting through 5 is a problem. Geno/Moose is a problem. No real CF is a problem.

And yet despite those problems, the Reds are in the playoff hunt.

pfft.

Very solid breakdown.

- I'd add Bell's usage of bullpen was a problem before the last few weeks. Using Doolittle, Hembree when you had Lorenzen, Givins, etc...he blew a few games IMO. Also, pulling starters and/or good bullpen pithing to early has also been a part of the "TinkerBell" label. Why Lorenzen had to come out after pitching 1 inning of 29 pitches instead of letting him go 2 innings, Why pull Castillo after 6 innings when he's under 100 pitches and not laboring, etc...he's done this stuff even going back to last year. Bell is very much a pitchers pitch no more than 6 innings, bullpen pitches no more than 1 inning, etc.. kind of guy.

[WVKing304]

The way he’s managed this current game is just another example...

[Boston Red]

He definitely should have instructed Miley not to pitch like hot garbage today.

[Kc61]

He definitely should have instructed Miley not to pitch like hot garbage today.

If Miley was hot garbage why was he left in so long?