Nice initial post WOY. Love the analysis.
Main difference for me is how much front office poisoned my passion for this team and it’s possibilities from the jump as opposed to that team where you knew they were trying to win from the outset.
Nice initial post WOY. Love the analysis.
Main difference for me is how much front office poisoned my passion for this team and it’s possibilities from the jump as opposed to that team where you knew they were trying to win from the outset.
Well, that's what those words mean. He was here. If they don't keep him, he will have been lost/subtracted. I headed out the door today with two shoes on my feet. If I don't return with them, I have lost them. If I do return with them, I haven't added them. ---M2
I’ve said it once, I’ll say it a million times: Build a team prepared for 6 months of play or sell the franchise.
Mitri (09-16-2021),Powder River (09-16-2021)
this is exactly right. and the 1999 reds did not give their closer away for free before the season ... and then wait 4 months to address the bullpen.
a 96-win team should not be compared to the 2021 reds. i understand to a degree where WOY is coming from, but it's my opinion that the 1999 reds were far better than the 2021 reds.
they were better because the 1999 front office tried to make them better. This 2021 team won what it won in spite of almost vicious planned incompetence from the front office and will probably come up short pretty much in a direct line back to the front office incompetence. It is infuriating.
Well, that's what those words mean. He was here. If they don't keep him, he will have been lost/subtracted. I headed out the door today with two shoes on my feet. If I don't return with them, I have lost them. If I do return with them, I haven't added them. ---M2
Falls City Beer (09-16-2021),Powder River (09-16-2021)
The Guzman deal was good, cost them BJ Ryan but plugged an obvious hole that appeared when Neagle couldn't pitch and Tomko was stinking it up, the Neagle deal was good but in retrospect he was coming off 66 starts and 450 IP in the prior two seasons so the cost was high for 111 innings (Boone and Remlinger)
But yeah they did try and if the BP this year was addressed sooner than later it might have worked
Old school 1983 (09-17-2021),Revering4Blue (09-16-2021),Tony Cloninger (09-16-2021)
They also brought in Greg Vaughn and he was with them all year and an absolute monster. You entered that season at least knowing the team was trying to win from front office on down. I just…I don’t think that was at all the case this year from ownership and front office.
Well, that's what those words mean. He was here. If they don't keep him, he will have been lost/subtracted. I headed out the door today with two shoes on my feet. If I don't return with them, I have lost them. If I do return with them, I haven't added them. ---M2
Tony Cloninger (09-16-2021)
They also brought in Mike Cameron that offseason. Underrated player. Speed and great defense, along with some power.
Chip R (09-16-2021),membengal (09-16-2021),Old school 1983 (09-17-2021),Revering4Blue (09-16-2021)
1999 Reds 96-66
2021 Reds 75-71
99 was way more fun. The last three weeks have been as miserable as I've been as a Reds fan. The bastards gave me hope and snatched it away, Most years there is just no hope at all.
Chip R (09-16-2021)
M2 (09-16-2021),Old school 1983 (09-17-2021),Revering4Blue (09-16-2021)
vaughn was like castellanos that year ... but even better. and i say that as one of the biggest castellanos fans you will find.
Old school 1983 (09-17-2021)
Chip R (09-16-2021),cumberlandreds (09-17-2021),Hoosier Red (09-17-2021),RedForLife (09-16-2021)
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
mth123 (09-16-2021),Old school 1983 (09-17-2021),Revering4Blue (09-16-2021),Roy Tucker (09-16-2021),westofyou (09-16-2021)
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
Chip R (09-17-2021)
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