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    Re: 9-18-21 Reds vs Dodgers 2:10 pm

    Yeah, should be an error. Should also probably be Saurez playing there anyway.

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    Re: 9-18-21 Reds vs Dodgers 2:10 pm

    Gray at 40 pitches through 4. So far, among his best games as a Red.

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    Re: 9-18-21 Reds vs Dodgers 2:10 pm

    Gray should have been out of that inning much earlier, but he still gets out of it just fine.

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    Re: 9-18-21 Reds vs Dodgers 2:10 pm

    Quote Originally Posted by NebraskaRed View Post
    Bad throw by Moose

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    Not sure why that was scored a hit
    Scored a hit because one of the fastest runners in baseball beat out a slow grounder.

    Official Scorer doesn’t assume fielder should throw out that runner on a slow grounder.

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    Re: 9-18-21 Reds vs Dodgers 2:10 pm

    Just a terrible official ruling by the official scorer.

    It clearly was an error. But more importantly, that was the first hit of the game for the Dodgers. If they go back and change it, like they should, it will now look like they are trying to protect Gray’s no hitter.
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    Re: 9-18-21 Reds vs Dodgers 2:10 pm

    Hopefully O’nora is ok

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    Re: 9-18-21 Reds vs Dodgers 2:10 pm

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Just a terrible official ruling by the official scorer.

    It clearly was an error. But more importantly, that was the first hit of the game for the Dodgers. If they go back and change it, like they should, it will now look like they are trying to protect Gray’s no hitter.
    This is wrong.

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    Re: 9-18-21 Reds vs Dodgers 2:10 pm

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Scored a hit because one of the fastest runners in baseball beat out a slow grounder.

    Official Scorer doesn’t assume fielder should throw out that runner on a slow grounder.

    The ball beat the runner. If it’s fielded cleanly, it’s an out. Clearly an error. End of story.
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    Re: 9-18-21 Reds vs Dodgers 2:10 pm

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Just a terrible official ruling by the official scorer.

    It clearly was an error. But more importantly, that was the first hit of the game for the Dodgers. If they go back and change it, like they should, it will now look like they are trying to protect Gray’s no hitter.
    If Gray gets thru 9 with no other hits, his agent has 3 days to appeal, correct?

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    Re: 9-18-21 Reds vs Dodgers 2:10 pm

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    The ball beat the runner. If it’s fielded cleanly, it’s an out. End of story.
    Scorer considers that it’s a slow roller and a very fast runner. He can’t assume the out. Doesn’t matter if it’s almost an out. He considers the factors making it a tough play.

    Sorry, that’s a base hit.

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    Re: 9-18-21 Reds vs Dodgers 2:10 pm

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Scored a hit because one of the fastest runners in baseball beat out a slow grounder.

    Official Scorer doesn’t assume fielder should throw out that runner on a slow grounder.
    Speedy runner yes, but a good throw there still gets him. Should’ve been an error and not spoil Gray’s line.

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    Re: 9-18-21 Reds vs Dodgers 2:10 pm

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Scorer considers that it’s a slow roller and a very fast runner. He can’t assume the out. Doesn’t matter if it’s almost an out. He considers the factors making it a tough play.

    Sorry, that’s a base hit.
    That is not how it works. You have to assume a clean throw. If the fielder makes the play, but makes a poor throw, it’s an error.

    We’ve seen this before, where a fielder makes an amazing diving stop, but their throw is off line. That’s an error and has always been called an error.

    That’s the way it has always been and the way it should be.
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    Re: 9-18-21 Reds vs Dodgers 2:10 pm

    Quote Originally Posted by TexasRedsFan View Post
    Speedy runner yes, but a good throw there still gets him. Should’ve been an error and not spoil Gray’s line.
    Sorry but that’s not the way they do scoring. It’s the degree of difficulty.

    Fast runner, slow roller, it’s going to be a hit. Official scorer won’t assume an out in that situation.

    Has nothing to do with Sonny Gray’s line, it’s the correct decision.

    If it was a routine grounder or a slower runner, probably it would be an error.

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    Re: 9-18-21 Reds vs Dodgers 2:10 pm

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    That is not how it works. You have to assume a clean throw. If the fielder makes the play, but makes a poor throw, it’s an error.

    We’ve seen this before, where a fielder makes an amazing diving stop, but their throw is off line. That’s an error and has always been called an error.

    That’s the way it has always been and the way it should be.
    Like I said, this is wrong. It’s a difficult play, you don’t assume it will be made. Slow roller, fast runner, difficult play.

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    Re: 9-18-21 Reds vs Dodgers 2:10 pm

    Dodgers announcers were surprised it was ruled a hit

    Including some no-name former player named Orel Hershiser


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