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    Re: Covid-19, Part XV - Mr. Ed can't find his medicine...

    9 Antivax Lies to Watch Out for This Holiday

    • “The vaccines are based on untested, dangerous technology.”
    • “mRNA vaccines change your DNA.”
    • “Vaccinated people are ‘shedding’ onto others.”
    • “The shots contain scary and/or satanic ingredients.”
    • “The vaccines are killing more people than the virus is.”
    • “Vaccines don’t prevent transmission.”
    • “The need for boosters proves the vaccines are useless.”
    • “Outbreaks in highly vaccinated countries show vaccines don’t work.”
    • “Kids don’t need the vaccine.”

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    Re: Covid-19, Part XV - Mr. Ed can't find his medicine...

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    “Vaccines don’t prevent transmission.”
    That's a lie? Well the opposite certainly would be a lie:

    "Vaccines prevent transmission"

    I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here

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    Is it a lie if you yourself are vaccinated and the thing you tell other people about vaccines isnít true for the purpose of discouraging others from getting it for some weird political move for the Republican Party on spec?

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    Hawaii's weather is far more predictable than Florida. In Florida you can get a cold spell. The problem with Hawaii for those of us in the eastern time zone is the trip to/from. It's a haul and always involves a red eye coming back

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    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    It’s pointless to even bring up this stuff. Once these are disproved, the idiots will just think up ten more. We just need to let them catch it and let them play the death lottery. I won’t miss them. We have to move on

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    Why haven't we seen a decoupling of hospitalizations from cases in the U.S.? The UK and other countries have seen it. We have not.

    For example, the first graphic is UK cases and the second is UK hospitalizations. We can see how aligned the two rates are pre-vaccine but hospitalizations have not risen at the same rate as cases post-vaccine. Contrast that with the third and fourth graphics, which are US cases and US hospitalizations. Pretty much the same alignment post-vaccine as pre-vaccine. Yes, we have a lower vaccination rate, but we have enough people vaccinated (especially old people) that we should see some decoupling.

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    Re: Covid-19, Part XV - Mr. Ed can't find his medicine...

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRat13 View Post
    Why haven't we seen a decoupling of hospitalizations from cases in the U.S.? The UK and other countries have seen it. We have not.

    For example, the first graphic is UK cases and the second is UK hospitalizations. We can see how aligned the two rates are pre-vaccine but hospitalizations have not risen at the same rate as cases post-vaccine. Contrast that with the third and fourth graphics, which are US cases and US hospitalizations. Pretty much the same alignment post-vaccine as pre-vaccine. Yes, we have a lower vaccination rate, but we have enough people vaccinated (especially old people) that we should see some decoupling.
    It probably has to do with testing. Maybe they do much more routine testing there, whereas here maybe people don’t get tested unless they feel really sick, and they find a lot more routine cases there. Personally, I haven’t been asked to take a test for over a year. Even flying to Europe, all they cared about was my vaccination certificate.

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    Re: Covid-19, Part XV - Mr. Ed can't find his medicine...

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRat13 View Post
    Why haven't we seen a decoupling of hospitalizations from cases in the U.S.? The UK and other countries have seen it. We have not.

    For example, the first graphic is UK cases and the second is UK hospitalizations. We can see how aligned the two rates are pre-vaccine but hospitalizations have not risen at the same rate as cases post-vaccine. Contrast that with the third and fourth graphics, which are US cases and US hospitalizations. Pretty much the same alignment post-vaccine as pre-vaccine. Yes, we have a lower vaccination rate, but we have enough people vaccinated (especially old people) that we should see some decoupling.
    Because we've got a crap ton of morbidly obese people who keep making bad decisions.
    Now begins the winter of our discombobulation.

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    Re: Covid-19, Part XV - Mr. Ed can't find his medicine...

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Because we've got a crap ton of morbidly obese people who keep making bad decisions.
    I think you're on the right track. It's all the obesity and diabetes here

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    Quote Originally Posted by BernieCarbo View Post
    It probably has to do with testing. Maybe they do much more routine testing there, whereas here maybe people donít get tested unless they feel really sick, and they find a lot more routine cases there. Personally, I havenít been asked to take a test for over a year. Even flying to Europe, all they cared about was my vaccination certificate.
    This was my first thought, but I think the test positive percentage would be much higher than it is if that was the main factor. I'm sure there isn't one single reason. M2's theory that we have more obesity probably plays a part, but we should still see some level of decoupling with how many vaccinated we have. Obesity was just as big of a problem as this time last year. The waves should not be mirroring last winter.

    I wonder if we have more hospitalizations with covid than for covid and that's mucking up the numbers. I also wonder if we've lowered the bar for who needs hospitalized compared to last year.
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    I was not expecting this on Black Friday.

    Stock market news live updates: Wall Street rocked by new COVID variant fears, Dow plunges over 900 points

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stock...125443465.html
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    Re: Covid-19, Part XV - Mr. Ed can't find his medicine...

    Sounds like the O variant bypasses the vaccine and is more easily transmissible.

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    Re: Covid-19, Part XV - Mr. Ed can't find his medicine...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sheed View Post
    Sounds like the O variant bypasses the vaccine and is more easily transmissible.

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    No one knows yet - it may be a bad variant or it may just be fear porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strikes Out Looking View Post
    No one knows yet - it may be a bad variant or it may just be fear porn.
    Stock market buying opportunity most likely.

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    Pfizer said it can update its COVID-19 vaccine if the Omicron variant is found to be resistant to its current vaccine.
    The company said it can update its current vaccine within 100 days.
    Pfizer expects to know within two weeks whether the variant is resistant, a spokesperson told Reuters.

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