Covid-19, Part XV - Mr. Ed can't find his medicine...

[Boston Red]

The CDC's FAQ says this, which I believe is consistent with what SeaRay is saying:

Yes. COVID-19 booster shots are the same formulation as the current COVID-19 vaccines. However, in the case of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine booster shot, it is half the dose of the vaccine people get for their initial series.

[Bourgeois Zee]

It is remarkably sad to read through this thread and recognize how much partisan politics have taken over in our world.

It didn't use to be like this-- and the world is inherently worse for it.

[kaldaniels]

So you don't have specifics. Fine. I'll tune you out then. If you care to discuss it, I'm here.

Personally I plan to get the Moderna booster when I'm eligible. I particularly like that it's a half dose of the original. That seems sensible. The J&J and Pfizer boosters are full doses

Sorry to pry but aren’t you eligible now? A health care worker and you were one of the first on here to get the shot I thought.

[bucksfan2]

Here is what the WHO says on child vaccination at this point.

"Children and adolescents tend to have milder disease compared to adults, so unless they are part of a group at higher risk of severe COVID-19, it is less urgent to vaccinate them than older people, those with chronic health conditions and health workers.

More evidence is needed on the use of the different COVID-19 vaccines in children to be able to make general recommendations on vaccinating children against COVID-19."

They do say that their advisory group believes Pfizer is "suitable" for children 12 and up.

In America, we are flush with vaccines. Every single adult in American who want a vaccine can get a vaccine. So the first part of your statement is moot since we aren't prioritizing anyone at this point.

What I guess I find ironic, but not so much anymore, is that you can scour the interwebs for an article that confirms with your line of thinking instead of listening to the professional group that in large part sets policy for kids in this country.

Its like taking medical advice from a reality TV host........... but I digress.

As a buddy of mine told me, this is what we deserve.

[Sea Ray]

Sorry to pry but aren’t you eligible now? A health care worker and you were one of the first on here to get the shot I thought.

It's fine if you pry. In looking at that Ohio website I identified, it mentioned first responders. I wouldn't really consider my field that

[Sea Ray]

In America, we are flush with vaccines. Every single adult in American who want a vaccine can get a vaccine. So the first part of your statement is moot since we aren't prioritizing anyone at this point.

What I guess I find ironic, but not so much anymore, is that you can scour the interwebs for an article that confirms with your line of thinking instead of listening to the professional group that in large part sets policy for kids in this country.

Its like taking medical advice from a reality TV host........... but I digress.

As a buddy of mine told me, this is what we deserve.

There is so much concern about these vaccines for kids that many European countries are not even allowing it. As an American parent, that'd give me pause

[Sea Ray]

The CDC's FAQ says this, which I believe is consistent with what SeaRay is saying:

Yes. COVID-19 booster shots are the same formulation as the current COVID-19 vaccines. However, in the case of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine booster shot, it is half the dose of the vaccine people get for their initial series.

I'd love for him to come back and discuss his issue further and better yet an apology for being wrong and his attitude but I'm not getting my hopes up.

[Boston Red]

What I guess I find ironic, but not so much anymore, is that you can scour the interwebs for an article that confirms with your line of thinking instead of listening to the professional group that in large part sets policy for kids in this country.

Note: this is the UN's World Health Organization. It's not covidtruthxyz.pornhub.

[Strikes Out Looking]

I'd love for him to come back and discuss his issue further and better yet an apology for being wrong and his attitude but I'm not getting my hopes up.

He's not going to make an apology because he's not wrong. The booster shot for Pfizer and the third shot for Pfizer is different - it was on the original link posted. But here you go for more information: https://www.firstcoastnews.com/artic...a-fccfee6bcd9f

[bucksfan2]

There is so much concern about these vaccines for kids that many European countries are not even allowing it. As an American parent, that'd give me pause

You sure like to parse your words.

According to this article:

Scandinavian authorities on Wednesday suspended or discouraged the use of Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine in young people because of an increased risk of heart inflammation, a very rare side effect associated with the shot.

Sweden suspended the use of Moderna for those recipients under 30, Denmark said those under 18 won’t be offered the Swiss-made vaccine, and Norway urged those under 30 to get the Pfizer vaccine instead.

The countries have adequate supplies of both Pfizer and Moderna vaccines and will be able to continue their vaccination campaigns.

In neighboring Finland, authorities are expected to announce their decision Thursday, according to Dr. Hanna Nohynek, chief physician at the Finnish Institute for Health and Welfare, told local broadcaster YLE.


https://www.wilx.com/2021/10/07/some...hose-30-under/

Three European countries paused the Moderna vaccine for young people. They did not pause Pfizer, which it appears like they are still using.

Saying things like Many (when its three out of 44) is misleading. Saying that they paused vaccinations is misleading since they paused Moderna and not Pfizer.

But year, carry on. If I had the time to go back and look, I would imagine the debate over college football last season and myocarditis, you were on the side of it not being a big deal.

IMO the potential spread of the virus by kids is far more detrimental to society than the minuscule chance they could come down with myocarditis. And this study below is interesting, it seems as if young children don't seem to be at risk of myocarditis from the vaccine. But I am just going on what the interwebs tells me:

The study period included over 275 million administered doses of the vaccine, during which over 1,400 were cases of myocarditis or myopericarditis – about 0.4% of total reported cases. Almost 80% were reported by a healthcare professional, with 1.5% having a fatal outcome.

Almost one in five cases were reported to be recovered, and 1% had recovered but had sequelae. About a quarter was still recovering; just over the same proportion had not recovered. The remaining quarter had not been reported for the outcome.

The majority of these cases were from the USA and Europe, the median age being 27 years. About 78% were males, and 61% were between 18-29 years old. Over half occurred after the second dose. A quarter was after the first dose. Mostly, the symptoms set in at six days from the vaccination dose.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...ecipients.aspx

[kaldaniels]

He's not going to make an apology because he's not wrong. The booster shot for Pfizer and the third shot for Pfizer is different - it was on the original link posted. But here you go for more information: https://www.firstcoastnews.com/artic...a-fccfee6bcd9f

So far as titles go, they are different.

But it’s from the same bottle, the same amount given in either case.

You guys may be talking about 2 different things.

[Sea Ray]

He's not going to make an apology because he's not wrong. The booster shot for Pfizer and the third shot for Pfizer is different - it was on the original link posted. But here you go for more information: https://www.firstcoastnews.com/artic...a-fccfee6bcd9f

I never said anything about a third shot. My comments were limited to a booster shot. What did I say that was incorrect about a booster shot?

[Boston Red]

He's not going to make an apology because he's not wrong. The booster shot for Pfizer and the third shot for Pfizer is different - it was on the original link posted. But here you go for more information: https://www.firstcoastnews.com/artic...a-fccfee6bcd9f

That literally says they are the same but given at different times.

"They are different because of the timeline they are administered, who needs them and the ability to mix and match."

[Sea Ray]

You sure like to parse your words.

According to this article:

Three European countries paused the Moderna vaccine for young people. They did not pause Pfizer, which it appears like they are still using.

Saying things like Many (when its three out of 44) is misleading. Saying that they paused vaccinations is misleading since they paused Moderna and not Pfizer.

But year, carry on. If I had the time to go back and look, I would imagine the debate over college football last season and myocarditis, you were on the side of it not being a big deal.

IMO the potential spread of the virus by kids is far more detrimental to society than the minuscule chance they could come down with myocarditis. And this study below is interesting, it seems as if young children don't seem to be at risk of myocarditis from the vaccine. But I am just going on what the interwebs tells me:

I didn't mention Moderna because it's not an option for kids like yours in this country. It's immaterial to our discussion.

It appears they're still evaluating Pfizer for kids:

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/em...dren-aged-5-11

[bucksfan2]

I didn't mention Moderna because it's not an option for kids like yours in this country. It's immaterial to our discussion.

It appears they're still evaluating Pfizer for kids:

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/em...dren-aged-5-11

If Moderna is immaterial to our discussion then mentioning that MANY (3) European countries paused the Moderna vaccine is immaterial to the discussion.