Hoffman is listed at $1.1 million.
Just sign him, he’s pretty good depth.
Hoffman is listed at $1.1 million.
Just sign him, he’s pretty good depth.
mth123 (10-16-2021)
It really depends on how cheap they’ll be this winter. Hoffman’s a guy I’d rather just move on from but he is a known quantity and makes completing the bullpen a bit easier. Low risk, low reward. If they’re laser focused on adding two guys as true upgrades I’d be fine with Hoffman as a final depth piece.
Forgot about Warren, but Hoffman looked OK in relief. If he proves to be not needed in Spring Training, I think you could find another team to take him and even get a lotto ticket in return and if injuries or other issues leave the Reds short handed, it will probably be a worse optoin who costs even more. The $500K saved on Hoffman isn't going to matter.
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REDREAD (10-19-2021)
I agree. People are forgetting that a scrap heap dude witll be at least $600k if not more (See Bedrosian and Doolittle) at best you save $500K and likely do not find an improvement. Making these kinds of cuts usually leads to a $2 Million guy with a 7 ERA. Hoffmsan's presence does not prevent the Reds from extending givens or going after a late inning lefty.
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Ok with keeping everyone minus Amir
He’s had his million chances
Hoffman for $1.1 million is fine. Can start and relieve, looked good in the latter role last year. The price is right - last year Reds guaranteed more money for Sean Doolittle coming off injury.
If they want better pitching rates they need to spend at a higher dollar rate.
Last edited by Kc61; 10-16-2021 at 11:13 PM.
mth123 (10-17-2021)
Falls City Beer (10-17-2021)
Sorry to be realistic. The 13th pitcher on the Reds’ staff isn’t going to be Kenley Jansen. We’ve seen the Reds go through every name on the scrap heap for bullpen arms. That’s the race to the bottom, not Hoffman as 8th or 9th reliever.
Reds need some top bullpen arms but there’s no way they’ll have 8-9 of them. Hoffman is a reasonable solution as a low-cost innings eater who looked good in relief and can throw an emergency start.
Last edited by Kc61; 10-17-2021 at 10:07 PM.
I think that’s debatable that Hoffman was good as a reliever. But the issue is less where they fall in the pecking order and more that there should be an urge to get better. Not return most of the relief corps that sank the team’s chances in the first 3 months of the season. Just because Hoffman and Sims weren’t the absolute dregs of a bottom of the barrel bullpen doesn’t mean they represent anything like a solution. And they should be focusing like crazy on upgrades, up and down the bullpen. But they did nothing last off-season so I’m not exactly holding my breath.
REDREAD (10-19-2021)
When you are looking at the bottom 2-3 pitchers in the bullpen so long as the salary isn’t over 2 million or so just give me the best pitchers damn it. Not complicated.
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