The fact that we've heard the figures of virtually all other teams deals tells you 1 of 2 things. The Reds are either getting a ton more than people think and they don't want fans questioning payroll. Or they got a crappy deal and don't want to be embarrassed about it when everyone else around the league was getting rich.
I'll let you decide which is more likelyy
REDREAD (11-21-2021)
Seems pretty clear they are in the $45-55M a year range. #18-22 in MLB
That's a good range and can keep them near the top of the bottom 7-8 market size teams
There is no miracle $100M a year top-10 local MLB contract hiding in the basement for a market of the Reds size
This is a good article on the state of RSN's - hint: it doesn't look good for Sinclair, and MLB (and the other leagues) are trying to figure out how they'll replace that revenue in the future. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/21/spor...of-pay-tv.html
camisadelgolf (11-23-2021),REDREAD (11-21-2021)
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
There is no magical, secret $80-100M a year local TV deal like the top 10 markets such as Philadelphia, Boston, the Cubs let alone up and coming top 10 markets like the Astros, Nationals, Mariners and Braves.
Pretty clear the deal is in the $45-60M a year range with some level of equity ownership (which may have zero value soon)
It isn't clear so you are right as we don't know the details. Hence my y original post seeing if anyone else had some unique insight. With high confidence the range is in the $45-60M a year level which seems to match the market size with some level of upside bonus from the surrounding TV markets witin 150 miles.
We know it can't be in the $75M+ range based on known regional contracts negotiated in the same window and we know it is higher than the $30-35M range from the previous contract.
This seems to be about the only good source that I can find. Which is an estimate for the Reds are a few other teams with the Blue Jays always excluded since they are owned by Rogers Communications that doesn't disclose any details.
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/lets-upd...for-mlb-teams/
camisadelgolf (11-23-2021)
JFLegal (11-24-2021)
I got an email from the Reds. They have some pretty killer Black Friday deals on tickets. I had my credit card out and everything.
But then I remembered I need to align my spending with the Reds payroll and resources.
So I'll just buy a nosebleed seat maybe once or twice, bring my own food and drinks in, and go sit where I want among the vast sea of empty seats instead. ...If I go at all.
And I'm not doing the vpn song and dance next season either. If MLB doesn't provide a non cable way for me to watch the Reds, I'm fading off into the sunset there too.
Lifelong Reds fan. Tired of it.
"Lemonade requires a significant amount of sugar. Otherwise, you've just made lemon juice."
Chip R (11-22-2021),Edd Roush (11-22-2021),Tommyjohn25 (11-23-2021)
Im turning in my fancard since they didn't extend Tucker Barnhardt and waived Wade Miley
That will show them who is boss
Ron Madden (11-22-2021),Roy Tucker (11-23-2021),westofyou (11-22-2021)
Yes, that helps and is why the Reds regional TV contract is likely in the #18-21 range instead of #29/30 like it would be if only Cincinnati TV DMA was the barometer. Also helps that Indy, Columbus, Lexington are growing quickly and the Cincinnati and Louisville regions are growing at a nice clip. The Reds are arguably in the middle of the strongest population growth area outside the Sunbelt, Toronto and the West Coast.
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