The Orioles are a really good trade match with the Reds. I'm willing to trade a haul for a.Mullins and Means package. CF and the rotation solidified for multiple years. I'd probably go as far as:
- Senzel
- Ashcraft
- Hendrick
- Gutierrez
- Dela.Cruz
mth123 (11-28-2021)
mth123 (11-28-2021)
You're probably out of the loop on Red prospects, then.
De la Cruz is going to be a top 100 prospect. Ashcraft is a borderline top 100 prospect and a legitimate MOR SP prospect.
That's three guys in the Reds' top 10 and two MLB-ready league average-ish placeholders, both with upside.
IMO, that's too much to pay for Mullins and Means, but I'm of the opinion that the Reds are too far away from contention even with the acquisition of the two Orioles, so that colors my perspective.
I'd deal Vlad for Pinder and hope the move from Oakland to GABP bumps his production. Vlad might do better in Oakland as well. Its a good spot for him.
Of course nobody wants Shogo, but if some team want the Reds to take an unwanted contract off their hands and get young talent in the proces, they may need to take Shogo to even the money.
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MoneyInTheBank (11-28-2021)
mth123 (11-28-2021)
Shouldn't the Reds just put all their hopes in Nick Senzel?
HokieRed (11-29-2021)
Give me three outfielders who can hit! I'd settle for Winker, Winker, and Winker there. Instead, acquire good pitching somehow. Leave the OF alone. Choose a lineup of 9 (assuming a DH in the NL) from this list of some of our 2021 top OPS (50 or more AB) hitters.
Winker - 949
Votto -- 938
India -- 835
Naquin -- 809
Stephenson -- 797
Schrock (OF?) -- 776
Farmer -- 732
Suarez -- 713
Moustakas DH?) -- 653
Senzel -- 638
Barrero -- 606
I cheated and added Senzel and Barrero to the list in case Schrock proves to be be less of a hitter than his 50 AB showed last year.
This is kind of like the reverse of who gets non tendered.
My answer is no OF of consequence comes here. The Reds are banking on two things: Senzel getting healthy and a universal DH for Moose/Votto.
Senzel is the team's CF. He just is. I hate it, but he is. IMO he's just average defensively and is made of compressed sugar formed into the shape of a human. Flick his ear and he crumbles to the ground in a heap. Not his fault, he is what he is.
The Reds approach is somewhat lazy and somewhat... emotional. There hasn't been word one about even possibly moving Geno, because he had a great September. They should be propping that up to every team needing a 3B. But he'll be there full time in 2022 if the DH is enacted.
So pretending he did finally figure it out, that's 5/6 RH hitters, a platoon of Naquin/Aquino (1st platoon in history with two last names with a Q in it I bet), Moose/Votto at DH and Senzel in CF.
That's your offense. Please get used to it. The only wild card is a potential Castellanos return. I think he's headed for SF, but it is possible.
Offense wasn't the problem. It's probably still not the problem if Cast is signed elsewhere. The Reds had the 4th most runs scored in the NL and the highest OPS.
The pen was the problem.
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