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    Re: Covid-19 Part XVI

    Just saw Ohio State vs Kentucky is off, the Browns don't look like they'll be able to field a team. Are we close to shutting sports down again?
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    Re: Covid-19 Part XVI

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfaithful View Post
    Just saw Ohio State vs Kentucky is off, the Browns don't look like they'll be able to field a team. Are we close to shutting sports down again?
    #1) What's the hospitalization rate among college and pro athletes with COVID?
    #2) What's the mortality rate of college AND pro athletes with COVID?

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    Re: Covid-19 Part XVI

    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    #1) What's the hospitalization rate among college and pro athletes with COVID?
    #2) What's the mortality rate of college AND pro athletes with COVID?
    No idea, I think you're mistaken in thinking I'm pro-shutting down, I'm just looking at the reality of all the cancellations and if it gets worse all sports are going to have a giant cluster of a problem with scheduling.
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    Re: Covid-19 Part XVI

    Holtman said their main concern was flying out there and then having someone test positive and having them possibly be stuck in Nevada for 7-10 days without a real good way to get them home.

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    Re: Covid-19 Part XVI

    Modelling suggests rapid spread of Omicron in England but same severity as Delta

    The new report (Report 49) from the Imperial College London COVID-19 response team estimates that the risk of reinfection with the Omicron variant is 5.4 times greater than that of the Delta variant. This implies that the protection against reinfection by Omicron afforded by past infection may be as low as 19%.

    Researchers estimate the growth and immune escape of the Omicron variant in England. They used data from the UKHSA and NHS for all PCR-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 cases in England who had taken a COVID test between November 29th and December 11th 2021.
    The study finds no evidence of Omicron having lower severity than Delta, judged by either the proportion of people testing positive who report symptoms, or by the proportion of cases seeking hospital care after infection. However, hospitalisation data remains very limited at this time.
    The researchers found a significantly increased risk of developing a symptomatic Omicron case compared to Delta for those who were two or more weeks past their second vaccine dose, and two or more weeks past their booster dose (for AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines).

    Depending on the estimates used for vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic infection from the Delta variant, this translates into vaccine effectiveness estimates against symptomatic Omicron infection of between 0% and 20% after two doses, and between 55% and 80% after a booster dose. Similar estimates were obtained using genotype data, albeit with greater uncertainty.
    Good thing the pandemic is over for those who got vaxxed. Oh, wait...
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    Re: Covid-19 Part XVI

    Covid case numbers around the world are already very high, and India is currently reporting less than 10,000 cases per day. I'm not sure if India's reported numbers are even directionally accurate, but I'd have to think Omicron and India are not a good match. Seems once it gets started there, it's really going to roar through that country. I'm not sure how that could possibly be avoided at this point. I wonder if we'll ever get anything even close to accurate reporting out of India about the effects of Omicron there?

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    Re: Covid-19 Part XVI

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    Modelling suggests rapid spread of Omicron in England but same severity as Delta



    Good thing the pandemic is over for those who got vaxxed. Oh, wait...
    Oh wait, people who got the booster are apparently protected from the new variant. In other news, ignorant hillbillies who won’t get the vaccine are still at risk, but the rest of us can party on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BernieCarbo View Post
    Oh wait, people who got the booster are apparently protected from the new variant. In other news, ignorant hillbillies who won’t get the vaccine are still at risk, but the rest of us can party on.
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    Re: Covid-19 Part XVI

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    The omicron variant is showing why it's not over for the vaccinated.

    First, it has so many mutations, it will be awhile before we know it's true effect. All we have now is very limited data from South Africa. It could have a different effect here in the US or anywhere else. It may be much more deadly, even to the vaccinated here. We just don't know at this point.

    Second, what we do know is that the booster is needed to provide the best immunity from omicron, so vaccinated now means, boosted as well. We also know that it is 7 times more contagious, which likely will lead to at least 7 times as many breakthrough infections. These may be mild, or they may by more deadly, we just don't know at this point.

    Third, there are tens of millions of vaccinated Americans for whom the vaccines aren't as effective, and the pandemic is not over for them, regardless of what omicron can do.

    Finally, omicron will not be the last variant. We likely will go through the entire greek alphabet. There is a strong chance that one of these variants will yield the current vaccine ineffective. We likely will be able to create a vaccine that protects against that variant, but it will take time, meaning more protocols, more staying home.

    As long as so much of the world is not vaccinated, the pandemic is not over for anyone.
    Everything I’ve read indicates there’s virtually not really any chance of a mutation occurring that renders the vaccines completely ineffective. For the virus to completely evade previous infection antibodies or vaccines, the spike protein would have to be altered so much that it wouldn’t be able to infect human cells anymore.

    Maybe it’ll wane down again like the first round of shots pre booster did vs Delta and Omicron, but there’s not really any chance of a variant sending us back to March 2020 stay at home order style.

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    Re: Covid-19 Part XVI

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    Modelling suggests rapid spread of Omicron in England but same severity as Delta







    Good thing the pandemic is over for those who got vaxxed. Oh, wait...
    This would be the worst case scenario but goes against what we are seeing in South Africa - https://www.thedailybeast.com/omicro...already-peaked

    The first reports out of the UK claimed Delta was more contagious (which was right) and also more severe (which was wrong).

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    Re: Covid-19 Part XVI

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRat13 View Post
    This would be the worst case scenario but goes against what we are seeing in South Africa - https://www.thedailybeast.com/omicro...already-peaked

    The first reports out of the UK claimed Delta was more contagious (which was right) and also more severe (which was wrong).
    Yep. And I as posted yesterday, there is some science which says it should be milder. Hopefully this study from Imperial College turns out to be wrong.
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    Do face masks work against COVID-19? Here’s what new study of 44 countries found

    During the COVID-19 pandemic’s early days, it wasn’t crystal clear how well face masks were preventing coronavirus infections or severe disease among wearers. Now, a new study reveals an association between mask policies and reduced COVID-19 deaths long before vaccines were added to the picture.

    Research on 44 countries in Asia and Europe including nearly one billion people shows nations that enacted face mask policies at the start of the pandemic had significantly lower COVID-19 deaths per million people than those that did not enforce any mask rules.

    Mask policies in the U.S. and Canada were not included in the study because such actions were made at the state or province level, not at a national one, researchers said in their study published last month in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine. Countries involved in the study included Greece, Germany, Korea, Italy, the U.K., Sweden and Hong Kong, among others.
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    Re: Covid-19 Part XVI

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    Everything I’ve read indicates there’s virtually not really any chance of a mutation occurring that renders the vaccines completely ineffective. For the virus to completely evade previous infection antibodies or vaccines, the spike protein would have to be altered so much that it wouldn’t be able to infect human cells anymore.

    Maybe it’ll wane down again like the first round of shots pre booster did vs Delta and Omicron, but there’s not really any chance of a variant sending us back to March 2020 stay at home order style.
    Omicron scared virologists when they first saw it because it had mutated in ways that they never expected. They couldn’t guarantee that the vaccines would be effective on it. Luckily, they are proving to be effective, with boosters.

    All of this is so new, and so different from anything we have ever seen or experienced, I think we can’t make any definitive statements about what to expect, especially if it keeps mutating for years.
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    Ohio announced almost 11,000 new cases today and 430 deaths. There are also 4700 hospitalized, nearly all of them unvaccinated, and DeWine is bringing out the National Guard to help the hospitals. I hope the hillbillies are proud of themselves.

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    ‘This Is a Whole New Animal:' NY Reports Highest Single-Day Case Total of Pandemic

    Almost exactly one month after Mayor Bill de Blasio triumphantly announced tens of thousands of fully vaccinated people could return to Times Square to celebrate New Year's Eve in person this year, the state saw it's highest single-day reporting of new COVID infections.

    The previous record, set 11 months ago on Jan. 14, crumbled when Gov. Kathy Hochul announced 21,027 new positive cases statewide Friday. The old record for most reported cases in a single day was 19,942, when reported hospitalizations were on the brink of 9,000. Now, the number of people admitted is down by more than half.

    New York reported close to the same number of tests taken last Friday, but of that batch (over 260,000), there were 10,000 less positive cases one week ago. Also, when you compare hospitalizations to one week ago, the number of people in hospitals for COVID-19 has risen by about 300, reflecting an increase of 8%.
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