A fairly recent list.
https://patch.com/ohio/cleveland/the...est-u-s-forbes
Cincinnati-based companies, while lucrative and profitable, are conservative as hell. We don’t have any media moguls or dot com types.
A fairly recent list.
https://patch.com/ohio/cleveland/the...est-u-s-forbes
Cincinnati-based companies, while lucrative and profitable, are conservative as hell. We don’t have any media moguls or dot com types.
She used to wake me up with coffee ever morning
The way this manifests itself, IMO, is the Reds have a controlling owner rather than a majority or sole owner. The non-controlling owners do have some sway (they have a board) and it makes for a more conservative ownership structure in terms of spending money and operating outside the box.
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
757690 (12-31-2021),BRM13 (01-06-2022),Revering4Blue (12-31-2021),Ron Madden (12-31-2021),Roy Tucker (12-31-2021),westofyou (12-31-2021)
M2 (12-31-2021),Revering4Blue (12-31-2021),Ron Madden (12-31-2021),Roy Tucker (12-31-2021),wally post (01-01-2022)
Groupthink is pretty common.
My boss has told me to be the disrupter in meetings and challenge the groupthink. Since I’m of retirement age and don’t have to worry about my job, it’s kinda fun playing that role.
She used to wake me up with coffee ever morning
M2 (01-01-2022),Revering4Blue (12-31-2021),UKFlounder (12-31-2021),westofyou (12-31-2021)
“I think I throw the ball as hard as anyone. The ball just doesn't get there as fast.” — Eddie Bane
“We know we're better than this ... but we can't prove it.” — Tony Gwynn
Ted Turner used to own the Atlanta Braves and the Atlanta Hawks.
Mike Ilitch owned the Detroit Tigers and the Detroit Red Wings.
Jerry Reinsdorf owns the Chicago White Sox and the Chicago Bulls.
That's just three, off the top of my head.
Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman. Damn glad to meet ya.
Big Klu (12-31-2021)
westofyou (12-31-2021)
Every team operates within the revenue they generate. The wealth of the owner or controlling owners doesn't enter into that.
The Reds make and spend plenty of money to be competitive if they were well run.
757690 (01-01-2022),InsaneinthBrame (01-05-2022),MikeS21 (01-04-2022),Revering4Blue (01-01-2022),Roy Tucker (01-01-2022),wally post (01-01-2022)
I think they have the money to take an honest shot on a more regular basis. However, the group model seems to push them more often towards the safe, highly profitable model of milking league revenues and keeping the payroll modest. That way all the owners get their beaks wet enough to feel like they got a drink. Could they win with that model? Sure, but they'd have to be close to perfect, and close to perfect is exceedingly hard to do.
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
Chip R (01-06-2022),MikeS21 (01-07-2022),Ron Madden (01-06-2022)
I think this is correct. This might be saying the same thing M2 has pointed out, but the partnership structure the Reds have means that to run operating losses over any extended period of time probably requires capital calls from the other partners. Depending on exactly how the veto power is set up, this might be close to impossible to get them to agree to. So regardless of what Castellini may or may not want, a few ownership shares held by poorly capitalized groups (or groups more interested in profits than winning) could severely limit the Reds ability to run losses (read invest) in order to win more over time. I'm not saying Castellini isn't a problem (I don't really know), just that any tendency of his to err on side of profitability is exacerbated by ownership structure.
Hopefully Reds discover next Money Ball
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