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    Re: 2021 International Signing Day 1/15

    Quote Originally Posted by UKFlounder View Post
    What are the chances any of these guys reach the majors? Have any other such signees made it in the past?
    Jose Barrero and Vlad Gutierrez made it last season. Both were high profile international signees.

    Former Red international signees include Jose Siri, Raisel Iglesias, Johnny Cueto, and Aroldis Chapman.

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    Re: 2021 International Signing Day 1/15

    Thanks

    I thought Iglesias and Chapman were somehow in a different category than the very young guys, but forgot about the others. My bad

    I appreciate all the info and discussion topics you bring here


    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    Jose Barrero and Vlad Gutierrez made it last season. Both were high profile international signees.

    Former Red international signees include Jose Siri, Raisel Iglesias, Johnny Cueto, and Aroldis Chapman.

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    Re: 2021 International Signing Day 1/15

    Quote Originally Posted by UKFlounder View Post
    Thanks

    I thought Iglesias and Chapman were somehow in a different category than the very young guys, but forgot about the others. My bad

    I appreciate all the info and discussion topics you bring here
    No worries.

    I enjoy the minor league forum nearly as much, I think, as the major league one.

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    Re: 2021 International Signing Day 1/15

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    The #Reds today signed 10 international players, including Ricardo Cabrera from Venezuela, the No. 3 ranked international prospect by @BaseballAmerica & @MLBPipeline
    here's the list: https://mobile.twitter.com/Reds/stat...C-ydP_gZMpAAAA
    Last edited by Ron Madden; 01-15-2022 at 09:14 PM.

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    Re: 2021 International Signing Day 1/15

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitri View Post
    Cabrera instantly becomes a top-15 guy in the system.
    Doug Gray, in his site, says he could see an argument for Cabrera at #8.

    I'm not that high on him yet. (He still has to translate those skills to production.)

    Right now, I'd rank the following above him:

    1. Greene
    2. Lodolo
    3. Barrero
    4. Ashcraft
    5. De La Cruz
    6. Allen
    7. McLain
    8. Hendrick
    9. Hinds
    10. Calihan
    11. Bonnin
    12. Roa

    I'd have to really think about the next tier-- Ivan Johnson, Jose Torres, Daniel Vellojin-- as well. Professional production matters.

    That next grouping-- Mat Nelson, Andrew Abbott, Thomas Farr, and others, including several young guys who profile in Complex or Low A ball and recent draftees without an obvious carrying tool-- would be a logical place to place him, though.

    So I'd go just after 15, within the top 25.

    (And that completely ignores the argument of closeness to the majors/ high floors. Where, for example, should Dauri Moreta-- who is almost certainly going to pitch significant innings for the Reds this season-- rank among prospects? How about Jared Solomon or Brandon Bailey? TJ Friedl, Alejo Lopez? All of these guys will play innings at the major league level-- Cabrera has a long way to go before he even gets close to that discussion.)

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    Re: 2021 International Signing Day 1/15

    Doug Gray being so high on him already gives me flashbacks to Yorman Rodriguez
    What would you say.....ya do here?

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    Re: 2021 International Signing Day 1/15

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Doug Gray being so high on him already gives me flashbacks to Yorman Rodriguez
    We all make mistakes, especially with prospects.

    Yorman had some loud tools.

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    Re: 2021 International Signing Day 1/15

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    We all make mistakes, especially with prospects.

    Yorman had some loud tools.
    Yeah, has no bearing on these players, just gave me a flashback
    What would you say.....ya do here?

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    Re: 2021 International Signing Day 1/15

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Doug Gray being so high on him already gives me flashbacks to Yorman Rodriguez
    Juan Duran at the very least.

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    Re: 2021 International Signing Day 1/15

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitri View Post
    Nice haul. I kind of love Pineda's profile.

    Cabrera instantly becomes a top-15 guy in the system. Are high-floor middle infielders the Reds' new obsession?
    Beats the Utility INF/4th OF fetish from a few years ago.

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    Re: 2021 International Signing Day 1/15

    Cincinnati Reds land top Venezuelan prospect in the international signing period
    “We started laying eyes on Cabrera probably four years ago,” said Trey Hendricks, the Reds’ director of international scouting. “He was one of those players that every time you saw him, he stood out. He was one of the best players on the field and he always hit the ball hard.”

    Cabrera, a right-handed hitter listed at 5-foot-11, 178 pounds, is a potential five-tool talent, but his bat was always advanced. He played in showcases outside of Venezuela, which allowed more scouts to watch him, and he excelled when he played kids two or three years older.
    Story Here:
    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...051004313.html

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    Re: 2021 International Signing Day 1/15

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    The Reds have signed Ben Walmsley, LHP from Australia
    I dont care, Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. Hes in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.

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    Re: 2021 International Signing Day 1/15

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    Reds added right fielder Esmith Pineda to their class of international signees. Pineda starred for Panama in the 2016 Little League World Series.

    “He’s going to have big power.”
    [QUOTE]Jesse Sanchez
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    As for Pineda, he is a big and strong corner outfielder who is best known for his big bat. He projects to be an average hitter overall, but he is expected to increase his power as he develops. On defense, he projects as a right fielder with a strong and accurate arm. His reads and routes to the ball are solid. He projects to be an average runner.[QUOTE]
    Last edited by Ron Madden; 01-17-2022 at 08:43 PM.

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    Re: 2021 International Signing Day 1/15

    Again, the Reds seem to be focused on power and quick bats.

    It's a talent philosophy that seems to eschew BA and plate discipline-- I find that troubling.

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    Re: 2021 International Signing Day 1/15

    It obviously remains to be seen if 17-year-old left-handed pitcher Ben Walmsley will pan out. But the club is hopeful it can expand its footprint Down Under as evidenced by recently adding former outfielder Donald Lutz as a scout. Lutz, who was the first German-developed player to play in the Major Leagues, also starred in Australia during winter ball.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mlb...-walmsley.html

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