As of yesterday, Ken Riley is pretty much a lock for the Pro Football HoF.
As of yesterday, Ken Riley is pretty much a lock for the Pro Football HoF.
Arise and walk, come through. A world beyond that door is calling out for you. Arise and walk, come through. It's calling out for you.
Bob Sheed (08-18-2022),Boss-Hog (08-18-2022),Redsfaithful (08-19-2022),Tadasimha (08-18-2022),WrongVerb (08-18-2022)
The offensive line has serious depth issues (and maybe starter issues if Collins isn't healthy). Time to use some of that cap space.
Every offensive line in the league has depth issues though...most teams keep 9 or 10 offensive lineman and hope none of their starters go down. Carmen, Prince, Hill, Smith most likely will have bench roles and have all gotten playing time in the regular season.
I did hear Prince and Hill got banged up at practice I would think if those injuries are serious they would sign someone.
If I was in a dream reality the Bengals would pick up the phone for Tretter and move Karas to Guard.
If you have a losing record at Reds games, please stop going.
Still befuddles me they keep rosters so low with the extra game. Thursday games. We want to keep players safe. It should be 60 man rosters. All available on game day. Maybe 6 man PS. Even now I think teams should keep 10 if not 11 OL.
Yes every team has some depth issue but this team has to be the worst depth wise at OL.
What would you say.....ya do here?
RiverRat13 (08-19-2022)
There were also a lot of people who laughed at taking a kicker in the 5th round too….and that worked out really well.
The issue I had with the pick was it felt like a reach at the time…he had mostly 3rd and 4th round grades. I buy what others above have said in reality it was Mike Browns final act of meddling. It was a favor to both Paul and Willie…it hasn’t worked out thus far…
If you have a losing record at Reds games, please stop going.
Boss-Hog (08-19-2022),Tony Cloninger (08-19-2022)
Yep. He was on a decent trajectory as a sophomore but was not good as a junior. It was a bad pick from the jump. The only way to salvage it IMO is to put him back at tackle. Collins isn't going to play 17 games and Carman may turn out to be a better right tackle than Isaiah Prince.
I'd go sign Spain as a placeholder, let Volson hopefully earn the job midway through the year, and move Carman back outside.
If you draft a kicker in the 5th he has to be Justin Tucker. And well, he looks to be Justin Tucker. McPherson looks to be a fantastic pick, I am glad I was wrong about that one!
I have no issues with teams who take fliers a little later in the draft. It makes sense, especially if you have extra picks and comp picks. You aren't going to keep 10 or so draft picks on your roster, swing for the fences on some. That said, I don't like fliers in the first couple of rounds.
FWIW Carman has COVID right now which isn't ideal for his development.
Last edited by bucksfan2; 08-19-2022 at 09:46 AM.
If you want safety and no future lawsuits then more players to a reasonable limit. So no one is playing when they should not. Concussions are not the only thing that’s long term. 60 is reasonable to me. You have what? 80 in college. The teams are not short on money to pay extra players. They could be in lawsuits.
Which to me also brings up the issue of how could anyone not know repeated hits. Especially in the 70s-80s on astroturf was not going to cause LT damage. Spearing. Clotheslines. Head slapping. All legal for the most part except the Deacon Jones slap up through the 80s. You had to know this would not end well just being versed in any medical knowledge.
McPherson is to me the opposite of what Chris Bahr was. Babe was drafted in the 2nd Round in 1976. They had 4 picks out if the first 60 or so of that draft. They had a bunch more as well.
But they wasted one on Bahr that high. He LOST games for them. I can barely recall the couple he won and I can remember them but I know how many he LOST for them. In the pre era of sophisticated kicking techniques and ST teaching he missed Extra Points that cost games.
Especially in 78-79. And sure instead of 4 wins they win 7-8. But he was a demoralizing force like you couldn’t believe.
He missed an extra point in the 1978 opener at home against KC. A bad KC team that used the wing T offense under Marv Levy. They lost 24-23.
Next week he missed a FG in OT within reasonable range of the 30-40ish. They lose at CLE in OT.
4th week they lose at home to NO when he misses 2 FG again with reasonable range on the Astro turf. 20-18 loss.
They lose 5-0 to the Bills at home and he misses 2 FG in that game.
1979 he misses an Extra Point in a 28-27 loss at CLE.
Misses a FG in OT against Houston at home. Reasonable range again. They lose.
Reasonable to me was 30-40 range. On the turf.
He ends up getting cut and goes to the Raiders and managed to settle in there for years while Breech gets picked up after the Raiders cut him after 1979 rookie season.
Fun fact. Nick Lowery was also in camp in 1980 for 2 weeks. Somehow they decided Breech or Ian Sunter? We’re better options than Lowery. Who had an obvious great leg and was more accurate.
Last edited by Tony Cloninger; 08-19-2022 at 11:38 AM.
Hill will play Sunday. D'ante Smith will play Sunday. Collins was in 11s today. Collins said Volson is maybe the best rookie he's even been on a line with.
I am sure the sky is still falling tho.
Well, that's what those words mean. He was here. If they don't keep him, he will have been lost/subtracted. I headed out the door today with two shoes on my feet. If I don't return with them, I have lost them. If I do return with them, I haven't added them. ---M2
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What would you say.....ya do here?
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