So according to this algorithm, it's better to lose 7 quad 1 games than win 7 quad 4 games. That's nutty. My coed softball team can lose quad 1 games but probably can't win quad 4 gamesOriginally Posted by Boston Red
So according to this algorithm, it's better to lose 7 quad 1 games than win 7 quad 4 games. That's nutty. My coed softball team can lose quad 1 games but probably can't win quad 4 games
I'm going to have to do this by hand, so here goes...
1. Tennessee SEC
Previous ranking: No. 7
Last week: 4-0
Overall: 23-1, 6-0 in SEC (3-1 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 6-0
March 22: Butler: W 13-3
March 25-27: @ (1) Mississippi: W 12-1, W 10-3, W 4-3
Upcoming:
March 30: Western Carolina
April 1-3: @ (11) Vanderbilt
2. Oregon State Pac-12
Previous ranking: No. 2
Last week: 3-1
Overall: 17-5, 6-3 in Pac-12 (0-0 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 6-0
March 23: Seattle: W 8-3
March 25-27: @ California: W 10-4, L 8-7, W 13-9
Upcoming:
March 29-30: @ Nevada
April 1-3: (24) Stanford
3. Virginia ACC
Previous ranking: No. 4
Last week: 3-1
Overall: 22-2, 7-2 in ACC (0-0 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 6-0
March 22: Towson: W 15-3
March 25-27: @ Wake Forest: W 8-2, W 8-0, L 8-1
Upcoming:
March 29: Richmond
March 30: Longwood
April 1-3: Georgia Tech
4. Arkansas SEC
Previous ranking: No. 6
Last week: 2-1
Overall: 18-4, 5-1 in SEC (0-1 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 6-0
March 25-27: @ Missouri: W 7-5, L 7-5, W 6-4
Upcoming:
March 29-30: Arkansas-Little Rock
April 1-3: Mississippi State
5. Florida State ACC
Previous ranking: No. 8
Last week: 3-1
Overall: 16-7, 6-3 in ACC (0-0 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 6-0
March 22: Central Florida: W 10-2
March 25-27: Duke: W 4-0, W 7-2, L 11-2
Upcoming:
March 29: vs. Florida (Jacksonville)
April 1-3: (11) Notre Dame
6. Oklahoma State Big 12
Previous ranking: No. 10
Last week: 4-0
Overall: 18-6, 3-0 in Big 12 (2-2 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 5-1
March 22: @ Oral Roberts: W 9-4
March 25-27: Kansas: W 4-2, W 4-3, W 7-2
Upcoming:
March 29: vs. Oklahoma (Tulsa)
April 1-3: @ Kansas State
7. Texas Tech Big 12
Previous ranking: No. 23
Last week: 3-1
Overall: 20-5, 2-1 in Big 12 (2-2 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 4-1-1
March 22: California Baptist: W 6-3
March 25-27: (3) Texas: W 5-4 (10), W 16-12 (10), L 12-1 (7)
Upcoming:
March 29-30: Stephen F. Austin
April 1-3: @ Kansas
8. Louisville ACC
Previous ranking: No. 15
Last week: 3-1
Overall: 19-5, 6-0 in ACC (3-0 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 5-1
March 22: Lipscomb: L 6-2
March 25-27: @ Boston College: W 6-1,W 10-6 (11), W 15-1
Upcoming:
March 29: @ Western Kentucky
April 1-3: @ Pittsburgh
9. Mississippi SEC
Previous ranking: No. 1
Last week: 1-3
Overall: 16-7, 2-4 in SEC (0-3 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 5-1
March 22: @ Memphis: W 11-8
March 25-27: (7) Tennessee: L 12-1, L 10-3, L 4-3
Upcoming:
March 29: North Alabama
April 1-3: @ Kentucky
10. Texas Big 12
Previous ranking: No. 3
Last week: 2-2
Overall: 19-7, 1-2 in Big 12 (3-3 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 4-2
March 22: Central Arkansas: W 7-2
March 25-27: @ (23) Texas Tech: L 5-4 (10), L 16-12 (10), W 12-1 (7)
Upcoming:
March 29: Texas A&M
April 1-3: @ Oklahoma
11. Vanderbilt SEC
Previous ranking: No. 5
Last week: 2-2
Overall: 19-4, 4-2 in SEC (1-2 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 4-2
March 22: Belmont: W 13-4
March 24-26: @ South Carolina: W 10-0, L 8-2, L 8-6
Upcoming:
March 29: Lipscomb
April 1-3: (1) Tennessee
12. Arizona Pac-12
Previous ranking: No. 12
Last week: 2-3
Overall: 17-7, 6-3 in Pac-12 (4-0 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 4-2
March 21: (18) Stanford: W 10-2
March 23: @ New Mexico: L 12-7
March 25-27: UCLA: L 10-2, W 4-2, L 7-3
Upcoming:
March 29: @ Grand Canyon
April 1-3: @ Washington
13. Miami ACC
Previous ranking: No. 24
Last week: 4-0
Overall: 17-6, 7-2 in ACC (6-3 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 5-1
March 23: @ Florida Atlantic: W 7-1
March 25-27: (14) North Carolina: W 8-5, W 7-3, W 3-2 (14)
Upcoming:
March 30: @ Florida Gulf Coast
April 1-3: @ Duke
14. Notre Dame ACC
Previous ranking: No. 11
Last week: 0-1
Overall: 12-5, 2-4 in ACC (2-0 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 4-2
March 25: Virginia Tech: L 10-5
Upcoming:
March 29: Northern Illinois
April 1-3: @ (5) Florida State
This is what I'm talking about where Northern teams have a difficult time the first half of the season during Winter and early Spring....here's BA's comments' about the Fightin' Irish (is that racist?...the Irish aren't thin-skinned, and could care less, and they aren't whiners):
"Due to inclement weather in South Bend, Notre Dame had its series with Virginia Tech limited to one game, a 10-5 Hokies win Friday. That game was nothing short of a heartbreaker for the Irish, as they held a 5-4 lead going to the ninth, only to have Virginia Tech score six runs in the ninth, the final three on a throwing error by pitcher Matt Lazzaro on a Virginia Tech bunt attempt with the bases loaded, to take a commanding lead. Notre Dame will go into a series at Florida State this weekend in need of ACC wins, as it has lost four in a row."
That stunts a team's growth and sets them back two weeks. It's like trying to improve your golf game by going to the course two days a week. It's impossible. Notre Dame will probably get swept @ Florida State this week, making it appear that they aren't very good, which right now, they probably aren't. A more realistic account of them will be to see how they are playing a month from now.
15. North Carolina ACC
Previous ranking: No. 14
Last week: 1-3
Overall: 18-6, 5-4 in ACC (2-5 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 5-1
March 22: Appalachian State: W 4-2
March 25-27: @ (24) Miami: L 8-5, L 7-3, L 3-2 (14)
Upcoming:
March 29: UNC Wilmington
April 1-3: Virginia Tech
Now, if you want to question something, I'd question how North Carolina only dropped one spot even though they got swept by #24 at the time Miami. NC is 2-5 against Top-25 opponents with three of those losses against a #24 team. I would have dropped them from the rankings this week.
Here's BA's comments, which don't reveal any reason why they should have only dropped one spot:
"North Carolina really took it on the chin for the first time this season in getting swept at Miami. In game 1, the Tar Heels fell behind early and their offense didn’t really get going until scoring three runs in the ninth when it was too little and too late. Righthander Brandon Schaeffer lasted just 2.1 innings in his start, which set UNC behind the eight ball early on. In game 2, UNC grabbed a 3-2 lead in the top of the sixth on an Angel Zarate RBI single, but Miami answered back and took control with a four-run bottom of the seventh. And in the finale, Miami tied the game in the bottom of the ninth and walked off with a win in the 14th, but the biggest issue of the day Sunday for UNC was the offense’s inability to get anything done against the Miami bullpen, which threw nine scoreless innings spread across six different pitchers. The Tar Heels will look to get back on track this weekend against Virginia Tech."
16. Florida SEC
Previous ranking: No. 9
Last week: 2-2
Overall: 17-7, 3-3 in SEC (2-1 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 4-2
March 22: Bethune-Cookman: W 3-2
March 25-27: Louisiana State: W 7-2, L 16-4, L 11-2
Upcoming:
March 29: vs. Florida State (Jacksonville)
March 31-April 2: @ Georgia
17. Gonzaga WCC
Previous ranking: No. 19
Last week: 2-2
Overall: 16-6, 5-1 in WCC (3-2 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 4-1-1
March 22: Oregon: L 9-5
March 24-26: at Brigham Young: L 11-2, W 6-3, W 9-4
Upcoming:
April 1-3: Pepperdine
18. Dallas Baptist MVC
Previous ranking: NR
Last week: 3-1
Overall: 15-8, 0-0 in MVC (2-2 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 5-1
March 22: vs. Texas-Arlington (Globe Life Field): W 6-2
March 25-27: (19) Maryland: W 8-3, L 11-5, W 5-2
Upcoming:
March 29: @ Louisiana Tech
April 1-3: Wofford
19. Texas State Sun Belt
Previous ranking: No. 22
Last week: 2-2
Overall: 20-5, 5-1 in Sun Belt (3-2 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 6-0
March 22: @ Incarnate Word: L 4-2
March 25-27: Coastal Carolina: W 7-4, L 7-5, W 13-9
Upcoming:
March 29: @ Sam Houston State
April 1-3: @ Appalachian State
20. Oregon Pac-12
Previous ranking: NR
Last week: 3-1
Overall: 16-7, 7-2 in Pac-12 (4-1 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 4-1-1
March 22: @ (19) Gonzaga: W 9-5
March 25-27: Southern California: W 9-7, L 6-5, W 7-6
Upcoming:
March 29-30: San Francisco
April 1-3: @ UCLA
21. Louisiana State SEC
Previous ranking: NR
Last week: 2-2
Overall: 17-7, 3-3 in SEC (2-2 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 4-2
March 23: @ Louisiana Tech: L 7-6 (12)
March 25-27: @ (9) Florida: L 7-2, W 16-4, W 11-2
Upcoming:
March 29: Louisiana-Monroe
March 31-April 2: Auburn
22. Liberty ASUN
Previous ranking: No. 13
Last week: 1-3
Overall: 15-7, 3-3 in ASUN (3-1 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 4-1-1
March 22: Wake Forest: L 13-6
March 25-27: Stetson: W 4-3, L 5-3, L 7-1
Upcoming:
March 29: @ Duke
April 1-3: @ Jacksonville
23. Charlotte C-USA
Previous ranking: NR
Last week: 3-1
Overall: 16-7, 2-1 in C-USA (2-1 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 5-1
March 22: vs. Campbell (Kannapolis, N.C.): W 12-4
March 25-27: @ (25) Old Dominion: W 11-4, W 13-8, L 13-12 (10)
Upcoming:
March 29: College of Charleston
April 1-3: @ Texas-San Antonio
24. Stanford Pac-12
Previous ranking: No. 18
Last week: 3-1
Overall: 12-8, 4-5 in Pac-12 (1-3 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 3-2
March 21: @ (12) Arizona: L 10-3
March 25-27: Washington State: W 8-7 (12), W 7-1, W 8-3
Upcoming:
April 1-3: @ (2) Oregon State
25. Maryland Big Ten
Previous ranking: No. 21
Last week: 2-2
Overall: 18-5, 0-0 in Big Ten (0-0 vs. Top 25)
Weekend record: 4-2
Results
March 22: @ Maryland-Baltimore County: W 13-7
March 25-27: @ Dallas Baptist: L 8-3, W 11-5, L 5-2
Upcoming:
March 29: Towson
March 30: George Mason
April 1-3: Penn State
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It's not an algorithm.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
There's no algorithm involved here at all. That's a good thing. It's performance on the field, how you win, how you lose, what injuries do you have, on the road, at home. It's difficult to win road games in college baseball. Really have to look at where games are played.
Most schools haven't played any games against Top-25 teams, yet. TEN was 0-1 until the sweep this weekend. Teams 2-5 haven't played any against Top-25. DP has played 4 and split. That's pretty good (and I'm guessing that all 4 were on the road, but I don't know).
Last edited by Kingspoint; 03-28-2022 at 01:01 PM.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
A computer program. Whatever you wanna call it.
I'm not sure whether to call Knoxville northern or not. It sure isn't South Bend but I will say their first week or so of games were awfully cold
Make it a clean sweep. Tennessee is #1 in all the polls:
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaa.../coaches-poll/
Kingspoint (03-28-2022)
There's no computer program....they do it with human minds. No computers involved. Too many variables for something as silly as that.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
Xavier took 3 straight from UC. Take that Googs!
OK, there's a formula, calculation or whatever you wanna call it and that formula is flawed. I am of the opinion that they use a computer to calculate these formulas. I doubt they use paper and pencil
https://kenpom.com/blog/rpi-help/#:~...ied%20by%201.4.
I'm pretty sure it's a group of people that simply vote. If one person that votes feels like he or she wants to include some metrics to determine how they vote, then possibly, but I'm pretty certain it's all based on what their eyes tell them combined with other sources of information. It couldn't be further from them using some sort of formula, calculation or computer, which is why Baseball America consistently has the most accurate polls. They got Dallas-Baptiste right. One through 25 is all going to change over the next month as conference play gets into full swing.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
Why did you post this link? It has nothing to do with baseball, and even more important to the discussion, it has nothing to do with Baseball America's voting system for their NCAA rankings.
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The other two polls are meaningless and made up of people who have no idea what they are talking about. They are dolts.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
By the way, kenpom is an idiot, too. He couldn't have been more wrong about it. Look at who won and lost the NCAA tournament games, along with the scores of the games.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
I'm talking about RPI for baseball. Did you think I was talking about Baseball America's ratings? RPI is not something that's voted on
https://www.abca.org/magazine/2013-1...02013%20season.
I stand by this
You're not wrong, but the RPI is more of a tool than a true ranking system. The difference between #1 and #2 in RPI is completely meaningless. Plus, as their schedules normalize during conference season UT will rise and DB will fall. Even if UT starts losing some games and DB does nothing but win.
Of course I'm a Tennessee homer but my comments here are factual and are only using Tennessee as a current example. I question RPI as a tool if it gives you credit for losing. I find that a flaw in their formula.
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