Hunter Greene

[RedsManRick]

Perhaps we're underestimating our team. Maybe they can win with young pitching and a platoon based offense.
Greene
Lodolo
Ashcraft
Williamson
Santillan
Vlad
Dunn
Sanmartin

If Greene/Lodolo/Ashcraft/Williamson don't have the ability to throw 180 innings yet, they can still do some tandem starts, 2 or 3 inning openers, middle relief. This could be a strong pitching staff behind Castillo and Mahle. I'd feel better if there was a veteran closer and another right hand bat to play the outfield

I think the pitching is going to good if not better. There's a lot of young talent and depth. I'm much more concerned about the lineup. It was an averagish lineup that lost 2 of its top 3 hitters and did jack squat to replace them, even internally.

We basically have 3 players who we can reasonably count on to be productive: A 38-year-old who rescued his career from its death throes, which may or may not be sustainable, and two sophomores who frankly significantly over-performed reasonable expectations during their rookie years. Not that they were flukes, but regression from standout rookies is not uncommon. And those are the most reliable, best options. Could they anchor a lineup -- sure. If they don't......

I hope Senzel learns how to stay healthy. I hope Moose learns how to hit again. I hope Naquin....? I hope Barrero...? I hope Aquino? I hope Colin Moran and Jake Fraley?

The cupboard is bare in terms of position prospects in the upper minors. Excluding Barrero, you've got Friedl and Lopez. Then what? Is there anybody in the org top 40?

And if things aren't working out, do we think the FO is going to bring in a difference maker? I doubt it. I mean, I'll hope for the best. But with just a small dash of bad luck, there's a distinct possibility this is one of the worst offenses in baseball this year.

[UPRedsFan]

On the other hand...

Adding Solano and Fraley and subtracting Suarez is a gain.
Adding full time Stephenson and subtracting Barnhart is an offensive gain
Healthy Senzel and Healthy Moose adds something missing last year.

There's a chance the lineup is more balanced with less automatic outs.

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On the other hand...

Adding Solano and Fraley and subtracting Suarez is a gain.
Adding full time Stephenson and subtracting Barnhart is an offensive gain
Healthy Senzel and Healthy Moose adds something missing last year.

There's a chance the lineup is more balanced with less automatic outs.

Who's making up for the winker and castellanos subtractions?

[WildcatFan]

Who's making up for the winker and castellanos subtractions?

Jim Beam gonna have a big year.

[Ron Madden]

C. Trent Rosecrans @ctrent

Hunter Greene is scheduled to pitch one inning today vs the Cubs

[Ron Madden]

Rob Friedman @PitchingNinja

Hunter Greene, Changeups

Watch:
https://mobile.twitter.com/PitchingN...Cy0duy7ewpAAAA

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Rob Friedman @PitchingNinja

Hunter Greene, Changeups

Watch:
https://mobile.twitter.com/PitchingN...Cy0duy7ewpAAAA

91 MPH changeups, lol

This is the key to Greene’s long term success, a changeup he can use as a third pitch. They looked good today.

[Ron Madden]

Charlie Goldsmith @CharlieG__

Hunter Greene threw 18 of his 33 pitches today faster than 100 mph. That wasn’t why he was excited with his start.

His changeup –– how confident he is throwing it and when he uses it in the count –– is in a completely different place than it was in 2021.

[mth123]

91 MPH changeups, lol

This is the key to Greene’s long term success, a changeup he can use as a third pitch. They looked good today.

be careful. I keep getting told a third pitch isn't necessary.

[Ron Madden]

The Reds' No. 1 prospect is making a good case to be in the Major Leagues for Opening Day. In his second outing of the spring -- and his first start -- right-hander Hunter Greene threw two scoreless innings in Saturday's 2-1 win over the Giants at Scottsdal
Stadium

“I felt good. I felt like my pitches were coming out nice,” Greene said. “It’s still spring, so I am working on pitches here and there. I felt great about my changeup. I feel like guys were a little bit off-balance, and I kept them honest as well today.”

As for his changeup, Greene used it to start a sequence against two hitters, something he did not do at all last season in the Minors.

“I’ve been working on that a lot in the offseason,” Greene said. “I take a lot of pride in my changeup now, really more than any other pitch. The fastball is great, the slider is cool, but the changeup is where my mind is at, and I’m really happy with that.”

“Pitching coach Derek Johnson says all the time I’m going to be out of the stretch more than the windup. Getting comfortable with that,” Greene said. “Spring Training is all about being comfortable and working on all of your stuff when it doesn’t really matter. I’m sure these guys want to see me working out of the stretch, too, and that I’m the same guy I am when out of the windup.”

“There are still things I am working on, and I’m talking to D.J. all the time. He’s in my ear, I’m in his ear. Not getting too hyped up, I’d like to think I stay right in the middle,” Greene said. “That’s what makes the best players, guys that stay on that middle line. I think I’m doing well. I have a lot of confidence in myself. We still have a few more games to go.”

full story here:
https://www.mlb.com/news/hunter-gree...-rotation-push

[herbdizzle]

With the advent of the NL DH the concept of an opener is now available for the Reds. I'd love to see the Reds use that with their rookie SP like Greene for the first few weeks. Let them go through a lineup once and build length from there.

[Bourgeois Zee]

be careful. I keep getting told a third pitch isn't necessary.

In mth's altervative world, Randy Johnson's still in AAA working on that changeup.

Jack Flaherty's a bullpen (maybe) guy, and Lance Lynn might be a AAA closer.

About 10% of MLB starters use two pitches.

[mth123]

In mth's altervative world, Randy Johnson's still in AAA working on that changeup.

Jack Flaherty's a bullpen (maybe) guy, and Lance Lynn might be a AAA closer.

About 10% of MLB starters use two pitches.

Exactly. Those are called outliers. I wouldn't project or plan on guys being an outlier. That's called hoping, not plannng.

[Bourgeois Zee]

Exactly. Those are called outliers. I wouldn't project or plan on guys being an outlier. That's called hoping, not plannng.

Hardly.

Greene dominated AA. His peripherals in AAA were nearly as dominant.

That's not hoping. That's development.

[mth123]

Hardly.

Greene dominated AA. His peripherals in AAA were nearly as dominant.

That's not hoping. That's development.

No that's just using natural ability to dominate inferior players but probably won't work in the big leagues where a lot of guys have that kind of talent. Now he's added a change-up that will aid him to do the same in the big leagues, that's what I call development. Had he not had added that change, I'd be skeptical of hm doing the same in the big leagues, at least as a starter.

Others who are lacking that development should take a little time to finish the job.