I just don't want Greene to be in the pen as a long term convert. I would rather have a AAA rotation of Greene, Williamson, Lodollo, Ashcraft than to have them start the year in the MLB pen.
I just don't want Greene to be in the pen as a long term convert. I would rather have a AAA rotation of Greene, Williamson, Lodollo, Ashcraft than to have them start the year in the MLB pen.
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mth123 (03-17-2022)
I'm guessing the Reds view Sims as the closer. Its a better idea than Amir Garrett last year, but I think its a disaster in the making, We'll see about Wilson. Probably better than Doolittle last year. Doesn't make him a reliable arm.Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee
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Good analysis, just going to pick out this piece because this quartet of young arms is what excites me most about what we could see, in bits and pieces, from the 2022 club.
All 4 of Ashcraft, Greene, Lodolo and Williamson might see innings out of the Reds bullpen this year, but my strong suspicion is that if they do it will only be later in the year and as a kind of long relief transition to becoming major league starters in 2023 (provided they pitch well in 2022). I do not see the Reds converting any of these guys to relievers anytime soon. Could happen down the road, but they are going to get plenty of time to learn the starter's trade. For me, Williamson has the most ready arsenal and is the least likely to ever have to don a fireman's hat. I can't remember the team having a cadre of young starters getting ready to make the jump like this group. If they manage to put the final developmental touches on these guys (not a given), it'll really give the Reds a leg up in the coming years. Kind of like having Burrow on his rookie contract.
HokieRed (03-18-2022)
Give me an idea how this will be slotted for relief? Is there a closer? I don't see one.
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Well the good news for the closer situation is that save oops will be minimal
Uhhh
Lucas Sims
Art Warren
Luis Cessa
Joel Kuhnel/Philip Diehl
Justin Wilson
Ryan Hendrix
Ben Lively
Buck Farmer? Trey Wingenter??
No idea who closes. Maybe Art Warren. Sims was bad at it. Cessa is a good setup man.
Doesn’t matter, really. Lot of chaff out there.
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Old school 1983 (03-17-2022)
I like Sims and Warren in set up, provided Sims stays healthy. couple of other guys on list MAY help like Cessa. No closer in this bunch.
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So where are the bulls? All I see here are steers.
Cubs signed Givens.
What's up with the multiple threads on the same subjects lately?
MikeS21 (03-17-2022),Old school 1983 (03-17-2022)
I like Lucas Sims, I wish he could just stay healthy
I’m on team Art Warren to close
757690 (03-17-2022)
I feel like he needs to shore up his command too. If I were facing Sims, I'd stand up there with the bat on my shoulder and make him throw three pitches in the zone. He has so much spin and movement, not sure he could do it.
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Sanmartin and Dunn could be useful in relief. I think that's where they'll eventually be used.
Warren
Santillan
Cessa
Wilson
Sims
Hoffman
Sanmartin
Dunn/Moreta/Diaz
I'm guessing they're mostly done until the deadline.
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