https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.as...=9,d&page=5_50
18 out of the 36 MLB starting pitchers with K rates below 7 have an ERA below 4.
6 out of the 9 MLB starting pitcher with K rates below 6 have an ERA below 4.
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I will add this. If they outlaw the shift, everything changes, and K’s will become more important again.
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And only 6 of the 36 have a FIP under 4.00. All you've done is find a sub-group riding pitching luck that won't extend very far. The point with Ashcraft is we should want him to be good. He doesn't need to be a strikeout artist to be a good pitcher (you are correct that a low exit velo would allow him to carry a below average K rate), but his current K rate is below sustainable. The more telling thing in your random innings selection is the low K guys only make up 24% of the sample. The lesson here ought to be better pitchers have some K abilities.
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Get the K rate up to 7.5/9 while keeping the BB rate under 2.3 (currently he is sub-2) and we've got something.
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I'm not worried so much about his K rate with his extreme ground ball tendencies. When he gets ground balls, he's good. When he doesn't, he isn't. Of course a higher K rate is desirable but I think he's uniquely equipped to have a below average K rate
757690 (07-01-2022),Old school 1983 (07-01-2022)
I was told that Ashcraft couldn’t succeed with a low K rate. I showed that there are many pitchers these days who succeed with a low K rate, some with ones lower than his.
Of course he is more likely to succeed long term if he strikes out more hitters. But not striking out a ton of hitters doesn’t mean he will never be good.
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I don’t want suspense with balls and strikes. You want the right call. Reduces pitchers throwing more pitches because the umps zone goes smaller as the game goes or Inconsistent. Hitters having to swing the bat more because pitchers now know where the strike will be. Teams or players not getting the benefits of calls. I read about a catcher who worried about the art of pitch framing. If I want to see art I’ll go to a Picasso exhibit. These catchers who get calls on balls and fool umpires can go and figure out other ways to call a game.
dreghorntwo (07-03-2022)
10 hits, 0 BB, 1 strikeout, 2 ER is legit wild.
What would you say.....ya do here?
M2 (08-03-2022)
C. Trent Rosecrans
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Ashcraft's line 8.1 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 3 Ks, 107 pitches, 75 strikes. He also gets the W.
Charlie Goldsmith
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David Bell on rookie Graham Ashcraft: "Even when things haven’t gone perfectly for him, he has done a nice job of learning."
"He’s very driven to be one of the best pitchers in the game. It showed tonight. He’s not far off from that already at this stage of his career."
Last edited by Ron Madden; 08-03-2022 at 01:29 AM.
Kingspoint (08-03-2022),Tom Servo (08-03-2022)
I think this three headed pitching front for the Reds could be quite good sooner than later. I’m bullish that the window to compete is nearer than we realize for that reason alone.
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