Rece Hinds

[M2]

Williamson is a too 100 prospect

I'm not sure how long Williamson is going to linger on that list. Bright side, Connor Phillips might be one of the prospects bumping him.

[OGB]

Well since the thread has been sidetracked by another Seattle trade discussion I may as well add to it. Suarez and Winker combined for a 2.0 WAR last year and have combined for a 0.4 WAR so far this year. It's not like we're replacing Trout and Otani here. The Reds have been bad because they've gotten no production from the best two hitters on the team(Votto and India),had no SP depth when Castillo and Minor went down, and once again filled the bullpen with question marks. Lorenzen and Gray would have been far more valuable to this years team than Winker and Suarez.

WAR is a bad statistic. Defense and baserunning don't matter that much. Jesse Winker had the 6th highest OPS in baseball last year.
The Reds haven't come close to replacing that.

[OGB]

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[CySeymour]

WAR is a bad statistic. Defense and baserunning don't matter that much. Jesse Winker had the 6th highest OPS in baseball last year.
The Reds haven't come close to replacing that.

WAR is a flawed statistic, like any other. But to say defense and baserunning don't matter that much is a bit much.

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WAR is a bad statistic. Defense and baserunning don't matter that much. Jesse Winker had the 6th highest OPS in baseball last year.
The Reds haven't come close to replacing that.

WAR is a flawed statistic, like any other. But to say defense and baserunning don't matter that much is a bit much.

[OGB]

3 true outcome baseball has relegated defense to a fraction of its former importance and it was never as important as offense to begin with.
Analytics have virtually eliminated base stealing from the game and that is the most important aspect of baserunning.

[Kc61]

3 true outcome baseball has relegated defense to a fraction of its former importance and it was never as important as offense to begin with.
Analytics have virtually eliminated base stealing from the game and that is the most important aspect of baserunning.

Defense is making a comeback. ISO power is down substantially, maybe due to the baseball itself. Legislation against the shift is on the table. There’s even discussion of moving the mound back.

Whatever the specific plans, the goal is to get away from three true outcome baseball. More balls in play, more defense.

[OGB]

Defense is making a comeback. ISO power is down substantially, maybe due to the baseball itself. Legislation against the shift is on the table. There’s even discussion of moving the mound back.

Whatever the specific plans, the goal is to get away from three true outcome baseball. More balls in play, more defense.

The shift, launch angle batting approach, and historically high K rates still makes defense a secondary way to evaluate anyone's contribution to their team.

Anyone who honestly believes the 5th highest OPS in baseball last year was worth less than 2 wins to his team is drinking some stupid sabremetric koolaid.

[OGB]

Defense is making a comeback. ISO power is down substantially, maybe due to the baseball itself. Legislation against the shift is on the table. There’s even discussion of moving the mound back.

Whatever the specific plans, the goal is to get away from three true outcome baseball. More balls in play, more defense.

The shift, launch angle batting approach, and historically high K rates still makes defense a secondary way to evaluate anyone's contribution to their team.

Anyone who honestly believes the 5th highest OPS in baseball last year was worth less than 2 wins to his team is drinking some stupid sabremetric koolaid.

[JCM11]

The shift, launch angle batting approach, and historically high K rates still makes defense a secondary way to evaluate anyone's contribution to their team.

Anyone who honestly believes the 5th highest OPS in baseball last year was worth less than 2 wins to his team is drinking some stupid sabremetric koolaid.

Winker had a 3.4 offensive WAR in 110 games. That sounds about right to me as that projects him at about 5 oWar over a full season. The problem is he couldn't play a full year and his defense stinks so that's where you get the 2.7 WAR over 110 games. He's a negative value player when he isn't tearing the cover off the ball.

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[Old school 1983]

Winker had a 3.4 offensive WAR in 110 games. That sounds about right to me as that projects him at about 5 oWar over a full season. The problem is he couldn't play a full year and his defense stinks so that's where you get the 2.7 WAR over 110 games. He's a negative value player when he isn't tearing the cover off the ball.

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Idk negative value unless he’s tearing the cover off the ball. But he’s worth far less than if he’s hitting at a proficient clip. It was kinda the point I was making about him and Cast. Idk if they could hit much better than last year. If they drop just a little bit, their skill sets make them pretty average-ish overall performers. Spend the money elsewhere.

[kaldaniels]

https://twitter.com/nightengalejr/st...yukoCkzImvoAlQ

117 exit velo tonight.

[Bourgeois Zee]

https://twitter.com/nightengalejr/st...yukoCkzImvoAlQ

117 exit velo tonight.

That's why, despite the K issues and the low BA, he's still a prospect.

[lollipopcurve]

https://twitter.com/nightengalejr/st...yukoCkzImvoAlQ

117 exit velo tonight.

This is after hamate surgery in the second half of 2022.

[Kc61]

Hinds should have a long career with the Reds. They have almost a permanent roster spot for power hitters with K/BB difficulties. Kind of a tradition.

Hopefully he breaks the mold.

[RED VAN HOT]

This has me wondering if there is a chart that graphs exit velocity vs BABIP? How about exit velocity vs swing and miss rate? My guess is that BABIP and exit velocity are positively correlated. Exit velocity and swing and miss rate may also be positively correlated, although this relationship is more problematic.