Nick Krall: Aug.2nd Trade Deadline

[Kc61]

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Tommy Pham is still a believer.

“You've just got to add a piece or two and you have not only a contender but a team that everybody's looking at different.”



I’m thinking a legit closer and another legit outfield bat. I don’t think I can do it in two. A third baseman, Barrero or del a Cruz? Keep the rotation intact. More bullpen help. Votto Stephenson DH 1B help.

The Reds only need two players. Willie Mays and Babe Ruth in their prime.

Oh, and five new relievers.

[MoneyInTheBank]

Not sure where “premium FA” comes from. I don’t envision that. I’m not talking about Cy Young winners, like Bauer at that time. I don’t think the Reds are ready to take on that kind of commitment. Even if they would.

But players in the range of $10 to, say, $18 million AAV for three years? Solid guys. Maybe a couple of excellent relievers at the lower end of the range. That’s what they should be adding now. Start to compile the infrastructure of a solid team.

I think the Reds would spend that money to avoid another embarrassing season.

I think those are the types of free agents that should be avoided at all costs (like the guy we are currently trying to use an asset to get rid of). I'd rather do bounce back Pham types on a 1 year plus a mutual option.

Guys who signed for that range this offseason have been pretty "meh" (opening day age):

Chris Taylor (31)
Avisail Garcia (30)
Jorge Soler (30)
Eddie Rosario (30) - Signed for 2 years $9M per
Starling Marte (33) - Signed for $20M per
Kyle Schwarber (29) - Signed for $20M per and has hit well
Mark Canha (33) - Signed for 2 years $13M per
Leury Garcia (31)
Anthony Rizzo (32) - Signed for 2 years $16M per and has hit well

[MoneyInTheBank]

That quote makes me wonder if he’s considering staying around next year

If the Reds give him the highest offer.

This was Pham when he signed:

“I’m playing to get some numbers, I don’t care about anything else,” the outspoken Pham told reporters. “I got to look out for me. At the end of the day baseball is going to move on without me. I got to get mine right now.”

He slapped someone at work over couch cushion money. He will go wherever shows him the most love ($).

[Kc61]

I think those are the types of free agents that should be avoided at all costs (like the guy we are currently trying to use an asset to get rid of). I'd rather do bounce back Pham types on a 1 year plus a mutual option.

Guys who signed for that range this offseason have been pretty "meh" (opening day age):

Chris Taylor (31)
Avisail Garcia (30)
Jorge Soler (30)
Eddie Rosario (30) - Signed for 2 years $9M per
Starling Marte (33) - Signed for $20M per
Kyle Schwarber (29) - Signed for $20M per and has hit well
Mark Canha (33) - Signed for 2 years $13M per
Leury Garcia (31)
Anthony Rizzo (32) - Signed for 2 years $16M per and has hit well

One person’s meh is another person’s solid.

3-4 new Reds solid average players would help matters.

[MoneyInTheBank]

One person’s meh is another person’s solid.

3-4 new Reds solid average players would help matters.

I'm not tying up half of my payroll for the next 3 years in "solid". If you are going to spend $45M, go big game hunting. You can find "solid" with bounce back or older guys on 1 year deals.

[Kc61]

I'm not tying up half of my payroll for the next 3 years in "solid". If you are going to spend $45M, go big game hunting. You can find "solid" with bounce back or older guys on 1 year deals.

When you need 15 new players on your team, you might not want to put all your eggs in one basket.

There aren’t many contending teams built primarily with stop gaps and bounce backs.

Reds need a solid core. They can worry about superstars once that core is in place.

[Redsfan6272]

When you need 15 new players on your team, you might not want to put all your eggs in one basket.

There aren’t many contending teams built primarily with stop gaps and bounce backs.

Reds need a solid core. They can worry about superstars once that core is in place.

sounds like 2030 before we see that ugh

[fondfoat]

That quote makes me wonder if he’s considering staying around next year

And that would make me wonder why?

[REDREAD]

Not sure where “premium FA” comes from. I don’t envision that. I’m not talking about Cy Young winners, like Bauer at that time. I don’t think the Reds are ready to take on that kind of commitment. Even if they would.

But players in the range of $10 to, say, $18 million AAV for three years? Solid guys. Maybe a couple of excellent relievers at the lower end of the range. That’s what they should be adding now. Start to compile the infrastructure of a solid team.

I think the Reds would spend that money to avoid another embarrassing season.

I hope you are right, I am just skeptical that they will do any better then the FA they got this year.

[Coopdaddy67]

I'm going to guess Pham rejects the option to become a FA, assuming his numbers don't tank from here on out.

Hell, he'll probably be traded.

[Kc61]

I'm going to guess Pham rejects the option to become a FA, assuming his numbers don't tank from here on out.

Hell, he'll probably be traded.

It’s a mutual option. Both the team and the player must opt in. I doubt he’ll be back. Agree they’ll probably trade Pham for table scraps.

[MoneyInTheBank]

When you need 15 new players on your team, you might not want to put all your eggs in one basket.

There aren’t many contending teams built primarily with stop gaps and bounce backs.

Reds need a solid core. They can worry about superstars once that core is in place.

If you need 15 new players, you have no business tying up half your payroll for 3 "solid" players. If you have all that money tied up there's nothing left for them to acquire a superstar.

I just think free agents in that range are just as likely to be albatross contracts in 2 years than they are to be part of a core.

[WrongVerb]

Krall's move right now would be to tell the world that Castillo is off the market, because the Reds aren't getting offers commiserate with his value to the club. It would be a bluff -- minds can always change, but pulling him back with Montas and Mahle questionable would show teams that the Reds aren't just trading him to trade him.

[Strikes Out Looking]

Krall's move right now would be to tell the world that Castillo is off the market, because the Reds aren't getting offers commiserate with his value to the club. It would be a bluff -- minds can always change, but pulling him back with Montas and Mahle questionable would show teams that the Reds aren't just trading him to trade him.

You mean like he did with Miley? That was a shrewd move to get back nothing for him. (I'm not against the tactic you suggest, its just that Krall doesn't understand the word "tactic").

[RedTeamGo!]

Krall's move right now would be to tell the world that Castillo is off the market, because the Reds aren't getting offers commiserate with his value to the club. It would be a bluff -- minds can always change, but pulling him back with Montas and Mahle questionable would show teams that the Reds aren't just trading him to trade him.

Or he could just be blunt and say “Castillo is on the trade block, but at minimum, we will require the player we see see as your best offensive prospect and 2 additional prospects we consider top 10 in your organization. If that price is too steep they GTFOH.”