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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - August 2022 Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    No one said you were the only one, just that there are wildly differing opinions (and values) on Encarnacion-Strand.

    As I stated earlier, if he continues to rake in AA, he'll get consideration as a top 100 prospect. Perhaps not from Fangraphs, but from others.

    That brings me to an interesting side question:

    - IMO, Baseball America is largely living on yesteryear's hype and the fact that they were among the first to work in the prospect field. Baseball Prospectus also has largely been an outlier. Fangraphs has gone through multiple prospect evaluators, and now seems remarkably similar to BP-- both seem to push the odd player up and down (IMO) in order to generate clicks and interest. The Athletic has a couple of guys-- Eno Sarris and Keith Law, who've been doing this for a long, long time and have the spotty track records to back it up. Which publication/ web site do you trust most for prospect evaluation? Why?
    I agree with this. I think fangraphs is the most stubborn with their evals. Once they have made up their mind on a prospect, he is either going to be in the top 100 until he is effectively out of baseball or has graduated. Encarnacion-Stroud is a good example, lighting up the minors this year and they will not move off their pre-season eval.
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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - August 2022 Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    Which publication/ web site do you trust most for prospect evaluation? Why?
    Kiley McDaniel to me is the guy I trust the most which is why it sucks he got put behind the paywall at ESPN.
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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - August 2022 Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    I see the Philly catching prospect went to the Angels for Syndegaard. Wasn’t aware of that. Hmm. Reds could have had him I guess.
    O'Hoppe was traded for Brandon Marsh a CF with 5 years of control left. Phillies traded Moniak and Jadiel Sanchez for Syndergaard. Phils should've got a better return than Marsh for giving up O'Hoppe.
    Last edited by JCM11; 08-06-2022 at 12:14 PM.

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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - August 2022 Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Kiley McDaniel to me is the guy I trust the most which is why it sucks he got put behind the paywall at ESPN.
    Good call on Kiley McDaniel.

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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - August 2022 Edition

    The Reds rank 9th in Kiley McDaniel's post-MLB-trade-deadline farm system rankings. He previously had them ranked 20th during the preseason.
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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - August 2022 Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Ohayou View Post
    The Reds rank 9th in Kiley McDaniel's post-MLB-trade-deadline farm system rankings. He previously had them ranked 20th during the preseason.
    I think itís interesting to point out that the 20th ranking would have included key graduates, Greene, Lodolo, Ashcraft.

    Considering we lost so much at the top, and generally have had middling results on the farm this year, itís a testament to the talent acquired to make the jump to 9th.


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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - August 2022 Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    I think it’s interesting to point out that the 20th ranking would have included key graduates, Greene, Lodolo, Ashcraft.

    Considering we lost so much at the top, and generally have had middling results on the farm this year, it’s a testament to the talent acquired to make the jump to 9th.


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    This runs contrary to the twitter outrage takes but I think this is a really good way of looking at it.
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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - August 2022 Edition

    I don't have a problem with the 9th ranking. The pitching has been pretty disappointing this year, and some of our best prospects are well under 20 years old. I do feel pretty confident that the Reds have 5 or 6 position players in the minors that will be able to help them win games in the big leagues by the end of 2024. I think they're going to have to acquire some pitching from outside the organization.

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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - August 2022 Edition

    He also called Elly the most exciting young talent in MiLB.
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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - August 2022 Edition

    C Hayden Jones of Daytona had two, not one, but two strike-em-out-throw-em-out DP's tonight.

    https://www.milb.com/gameday/flying-...ox,game=670449

    https://www.milb.com/player/hayden-jones-681348

    Jones' CS rate is 32% on the season before tonight in 53 attempts.

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=jones-002hay

    Tortuga's pitchers struck out 16 tonight, giving up only 2 hits and walking 4. Andrew Moore was the only pitcher not striking anyone out, but he pitched a scoreless inning.

    19 K's for Sam Benschoter over his last two starts (9 innings total).
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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - August 2022 Edition

    https://www.milb.com/player/jefferson-lopez-686627

    Someone to keep an eye on now that he seems to have mastered the ACL League. Always interested in anyone who can post a 0.770 WHIP with 27 K's in 20.2 innings as a Reliever whatever league it's in. And, there's much better data on him than just WHIP that shows it's not a fluke.
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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - August 2022 Edition

    With all the new toys on the farm what’s not getting much attention is Austin Hendrick. Hitting the ball a bit better over the last month. So far his august has been .271/.447/.621

    If he can end the year strong and show some promise that’s huge for the reds.

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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - August 2022 Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Krivsky View Post
    With all the new toys on the farm whatís not getting much attention is Austin Hendrick. Hitting the ball a bit better over the last month. So far his august has been .271/.447/.621

    If he can end the year strong and show some promise thatís huge for the reds.
    Thanks for posting this, Iíve noticed it, very encouraging. HS draftee, in COVID era, maybe just needed more time to get going.

    Another name is TJ Friedl. He couldnít hit major league pitching in his trial and was returned to AAA in June. OPS .984 in June, .878 in July, .926 in August. K rate usually below 20%, walk rate at 12% at AAA this year.

    On Friedl, he may just be a AAA wonder, but he certainly has earned another shot as a September call up.

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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - August 2022 Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Thanks for posting this, I’ve noticed it, very encouraging. HS draftee, in COVID era, maybe just needed more time to get going.

    Another name is TJ Friedl. He couldn’t hit major league pitching in his trial and was returned to AAA in June. OPS .984 in June, .878 in July, .926 in August. K rate usually below 20%, walk rate at 12% at AAA this year.

    On Friedl, he may just be a AAA wonder, but he certainly has earned another shot as a September call up.
    September rosters only go from 26 to 28 this year, so they’ll probably just bring up two pitchers to help cover the lost innings from Mahle and Castillo. Not sure though if they have to bring up one pitcher and one position player.

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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - August 2022 Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by LeatherPants View Post
    September rosters only go from 26 to 28 this year, so they’ll probably just bring up two pitchers to help cover the lost innings from Mahle and Castillo. Not sure though if they have to bring up one pitcher and one position player.
    The better approach might be to dump a few guys who don’t figure. Then bring up 4-5 kids from AAA, give them a taste. They could cut any number of relievers, maybe Aquino, if they want to make room.

    Bring up Friedl, Steer, a couple of pitchers, maybe Williamson if he’d benefit.

    Not a huge number in light of current rules, but as a rebuilding team it’s an opportunity.
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