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“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
REDREAD (08-02-2022),Revering4Blue (08-02-2022)
Falls City Beer (08-02-2022),REDREAD (08-02-2022)
Revering4Blue (08-03-2022),sdwagers (08-02-2022)
Yep, or there will be some other excuse.. "But it was not a true teardown, the Reds should have cashed in on Farmer, Ty Steve and India while they were at their peak. What was the point in keeping those guys around on a 95+ loss team? Those guys could have been traded to ensure a better future".. Or.. Prospect X was a no doubt impact player, but it was unforseen that... otherwise the rebuild would have worked.
There will be some rationalization that the teardown in 2026 is going to have a better result than the 2022 teardown...
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
Falls City Beer (08-02-2022),Powder River (08-03-2022),RedsBaron (08-03-2022),sdwagers (08-02-2022),wlf WV (08-03-2022)
"In our sundown perambulations of late, through the outer parts of Brooklyn, we have observed several parties of youngsters playing 'base', a certain game of ball. Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms, the game of ball is glorious"
-Walt Whitman
Votto in his last year(s) remind me of 70s guys
Kaline made over 100k and was retiring, Hank Aaron Milwaukee Brewer, Willie McCovey a padre and an Athletic, Dick Allen burns out
They all were paid for the times they weren’t
Nature of MLB for a long time
I understand this team will not be expected to compete for a few years but I don't think things are as bad as we think they will be. Next years projected roster leaves a lot to be desired but also has a lot of bright spots that will be a part of the future core.
C - Stephenson
1B - Votto
2B - India
SS - Farmer
3B - Moose
RF - Aquino
CF - Senzel
LF - Fraley
SP - Greene
SP - Lodolo
SP - Ashcraft
SP - Overton
SP - Gutierrez
RP - Antone
RP - Diaz
RP - Wilson
RP - Cessa
RP - Sanmartin
Who knows what they might find in their annual spring dumpster dive? Last year provided Pham and Drury.
We've also got guys in AAA who could get the call - Barrero, Dunn, Williamson, Friedl, Shrock, Steer etc.
Again, if i'm putting money on it i'd guess this will be a mid 60s - low 70s win team but it's got a lot of talent, it's just got a lot of holes as well.
Honestly this deadline was so wild I forgot we traded Naquin.
RiverRat13 (08-02-2022)
Revering4Blue (08-02-2022)
I agree with your premise, but that roster is hideous. They've gotta add a proven MOR veteran, another guy to compete for a 5th spot, a solid backend bullpen guy, and a starting OFer. And all those can't be dumpster dives. Then hope that one or more of Steer, McLain, De La Cruz, or Barrero takes control of a starting spot somewhere next year.
"In our sundown perambulations of late, through the outer parts of Brooklyn, we have observed several parties of youngsters playing 'base', a certain game of ball. Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms, the game of ball is glorious"
-Walt Whitman
Revering4Blue (08-02-2022)
They have to bring in at least one competent veteran SP in the off season, and there's no excuse for that not to happen given how low the 2023 payroll is looking. They also need to bring in an OF bat that's a legit plus bat. Prospect wise Steer and maybe McLain could be ready for a lot of playing time. You have to let Williamson sink or swim at some point.
REDREAD (08-02-2022),Revering4Blue (08-02-2022)
Big Klu (08-02-2022),Revering4Blue (08-03-2022)
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