A ball and AA are not responsive to what I said. I hope you don’t think you refuted what i said. You didn’t.Originally Posted by CaiGuy
And I’m not sure 22% K rate at AA is terribly good for a top prospect.
A ball and AA are not responsive to what I said. I hope you don’t think you refuted what i said. You didn’t.
And I’m not sure 22% K rate at AA is terribly good for a top prospect.
http://www.prospects1500.com/milb/mi...al-benchmarks/
According to this the Jose’s k% was about average for AA in 2021
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westofyou (08-09-2022)
Have an average K rate is bad for a top prospect most AA players are not MLB caliber players. Plus he swings wildly on sliders the book is out on him That is why he struggled in AAA which is what 6 I heard from people and verified by our announcers. The plate discpiline charts also show this.
Kc61 (08-09-2022)
If you can’t lay off sliders/breaking balls out of the zone you will have a short career. Unless you are Javy Baez and go off for stretches. I don’t think Barrero can do that, though.
What would you say.....ya do here?
If you can't trust your top prospect with the bases loaded......
“As long as I have fun playing, the stats will take care of themselves.”
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Barrero ain’t the Reds top prospect.
What would you say.....ya do here?
He was at one time. Baseball America no longer considers him a prospect.
Point is mute... you know what I mean.
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I do, but just sayin: if Barrero had prospect eligibility right now he wouldn’t crack too 5 for Reds right now IMO.
What would you say.....ya do here?
Bad call by Bell. Give the kid the chance to turn his night around.
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Agreed. It made sense tactically, but the whole point of the next couple months is seeing Barrero get consistent ABs, learn and hopefully adjust.
Leave him in there and see what happens.
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I wasn’t trying to say he’s going to magically be successful in the big leagues, just that at one point he wasn’t absolutely horrendous at the plate. I think you’d be surprised at how many of the top prospects have a k% around 22%. 5 of the top 6 hitting prospects (according to MLB pipeline) had k% above 20%. De La Cruz has a k% above 30%.
The television crews left and about 10 reporters remained in the room. That's when Price took his turn doing the talking.
What followed was a five-minute, 34-second expletive-filled tirade. The final tally was 77 uses of the "F" word or a variant and 11 uses of a vulgar term for feces (two bovine, one equine).
I’m typically pretty hard on Barrero but I’ve got to agree with you here. He has pop and he was the tying run. The season is lost anyway, what’s your be gained by sending Alejo Lopez up there?
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School's out. What did you expect?
A case, once again, of David doing too much managing. I leave him in and see if he runs into one and ties the game. Plus, pretend you have confidence in him, even when you don't. Lopez hasn't impressed me. I say, yes way, Jose, and go for the four run homer.
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goreds2 (08-10-2022)
I really don't follow. My only point is that his K rate was constantly around 22% for his entire career at every level, going into this year, so his rate in AAA (pre-injury) was not flukey, nor an insurmountable problem. We aren't talking about a 1B or DH here, we are talking about a good SS with pop. I don't think he will hit in the top or middle of a good lineup. All I said is that he could be similar to another young SS with a low OB%, some issues with K's, good power, and great defense at SS. Add it up and that is an average hitter with great defense at a premium position. That has real value.
We both agree that a 37% K rate is not sustainable and if that is his new normal then he is bust-city. The question is, is he the 22% guy he always was, and this year is the temporary result of a major injury, or is this the new normal for him going forward? I guess we will see.
I think there's definitely time to give guys some run, and then there's also a teachable and possibly very fun moment (depending on whether you're Barrero or the team or a fan) where you have a chance to tie the game against a team that is top caliber at their place. Nothing about Barrero's previous TERRIBLE plate appearances suggested that he was up there to do anything other than hack away at pitches a foot off the plate.
"He reminds me of me when I was that age -- the way he plays the game, I mean," Pete Rose talking about Chris Sabo
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