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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Yes, but if you finish with the third worst record isnt 7th the worst you can do while if you finish 4th 10th is the worst?
    Third worst record can get the ninth pick.

    Six picks are selected by lottery. After that the teams pick according to record. If the six worst teams (by record) all lose out in the lottery, then the worst team picks seventh, second worst picks eighth, third worst picks ninth.
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    Re: "Lose For Crews"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Third worst record can get the ninth pick.

    Six picks are selected by lottery. After that the teams pick according to record. If the six worst teams (by record) all lose out in the lottery, then the worst team picks seventh, second worst picks eighth, third worst picks ninth.
    Oh, I see, so 1st worst record = 7th is worst you can do
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    Re: "Lose For Crews"

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Yes, but if you finish with the third worst record isnt 7th the worst you can do while if you finish 4th 10th is the worst?
    If the website I linked is accurate, it's 7th for 1st place, 8th for 2nd place, 9th for 3rd place, and 10th for 4th pace. Though either way, 9th & 10th are both extremely unlikely. 8th or worse is a ~5% chance if you're 3rd and ~10% chance if you're 4th.

    3rd is better than 4th, no doubt. But the difference is pretty small.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: "Lose For Crews"

    Aren't the Reds in the third spot going into the last two games? Pirates won the season series so they finish above the Reds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RED VAN HOT View Post
    Aren't the Reds in the third spot going into the last two games? Pirates won the season series so they finish above the Reds.
    The tiebreaker is not the season series. The tiebreaker is 2021 W-L record. Pirates have the tiebreaker because they had a worse W-L record in 2021.

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    Pirates winning, reds losing. Let’s gooooooo.
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    Reds win, Pirates are now tied with the Cardinals. It’s slipping away.
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    Re: "Lose For Crews"

    Pirates lose. I assume that it is now over. The Reds get the 4th slot in the draft lottery?
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    Re: "Lose For Crews"

    Welp
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    Re: "Lose For Crews"

    Much ado about nothing.
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Much ado about nothing.
    Yes, Reds did ok here. They’ll get a top ten draft choice and maybe much better. If they finish ahead of the Pirates in the standings, that’s some solace for a miserable season.

    From the perspective of MLB as a whole, it’ll be good if some of these tanking teams are not rewarded in the draft. Hope the Reds get lucky, however.

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    Re: "Lose For Crews"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Hope the Reds get lucky, however.
    The number one pick would be a nice salve for a miserable season.

    Sure, the Reds don't deserve it, but the fans do.

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    Re: "Lose For Crews"

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    The number one pick would be a nice salve for a miserable season.

    Sure, the Reds don't deserve it, but the fans do.
    I don't know...it'll likely end up in more embarrassment when we blow that pick. Just as soon not go there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    The number one pick would be a nice salve for a miserable season.

    Sure, the Reds don't deserve it, but the fans do.
    The Reds can still get the #1 pick. All that happened is that the odds of them getting it went down from 13% to 16%. Much ado about nothing (or 3%).
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    Re: "Lose For Crews"

    From mlbtraderumors.com

    The date of the draft lottery has not been formally announced, but Mayo notes it’s expected to take place during the Winter Meetings.

    Joe Doyle of Prospects Live first reported last month that it’ll be run at the Winter Meetings on December 6.

    As part of the Players Association’s efforts to reduce the incentive for non-competitive teams to lose games, the latest collective bargaining agreement introduced a lottery to determine the top six overall selections.

    A team’s odds of landing a higher pick are still weighted in favor of the clubs with the worst records, although the three worst teams all have identical chances of landing the top selections.

    All 18 non-playoff teams are technically in the running for any of the top six picks, albeit with increasingly diminished odds for the clubs with better records.

    After the first six selections are drawn, the remainder of the first round will run in inverse order of the standings among the teams not awarded a lottery pick.

    The lottery only comes into play for the first round of the draft. From the second round onwards, pick order is determined in inverse order of the prior season’s standings (aside from compensatory and competitive balance selections).
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