Yeah comparing a 19 year draft pick in baseball to a fully-developed NFL franchise quarterback is really pretty meaningless.Originally Posted by 757690
Yeah comparing a 19 year draft pick in baseball to a fully-developed NFL franchise quarterback is really pretty meaningless.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
To each their own. Even on that level, I found the April version of this team to be extremely more entertaining and interesting than the current run of the mill bad that they are.
And on the second point - they might not be the exact same thing, but they aren’t apples and oranges either. Especially if the top overall prospect is a quick to the majors college outfield bat, aka exactly what this team needs.
They can’t be shamed. This off-season proved that. They faced a decision: contend or tank…and they tanked. They will make that choice again until they sell the franchise. So the sooner they’re forced to pony up, my belief is the sooner they’ll sell. I could be wrong. They could be raring and ready to add the 75-100 million necessary to put the supplementary talent in to win on a regular basis, but I don’t see it. I think they’ll retreat and hopefully just sell.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
Everyone used to be a manager or coach when it came to baseball and football.
Now everyone wants to be the GM
Ron Madden (08-10-2022)
One outfield bat, even someone as great as Soto moves the needle virtually nowhere in MLB. This team is threadbare. That team would look like the 2022 Nationals.
NBA/NFL =/= MLB
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
Didn't they almost do that when they beat the Jets or was I thinking the next season?
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
WUT? the Os 100% tanked. are you kidding right now
Well, that's what those words mean. He was here. If they don't keep him, he will have been lost/subtracted. I headed out the door today with two shoes on my feet. If I don't return with them, I have lost them. If I do return with them, I haven't added them. ---M2
cumberlandreds (08-11-2022),New Fever (08-20-2022),westofyou (08-10-2022)
There is no question that its beneficial to the reds to end with a record that allows them to draft the best player possible, but when I'm watching today's game, I'm rooting for a win and not thinking about that other stuff.
Not interested in rooting for them to lose any individual game. I also want the best players on the roster and filling roles where they are most likely to be successful even in a lost season. I understand getting a look at a young player who you think may be one of your best players down the road and I'm in favor of that because he's probably replacing a bad player on a team like this anyway, but generally I want the best guys out there.
All my posts are my opinion - just like yours are. If I forget to state it and you're too dense to see the obvious, look here!
Yeah they started flirting with disaster for that one game but they ended up clinching it a couple weeks later. And then won the last game of the season to boot.
i mean. I am just. I don't know what to say. I can't argue with wherever he is coming from. And where I work, I would know.
Well, that's what those words mean. He was here. If they don't keep him, he will have been lost/subtracted. I headed out the door today with two shoes on my feet. If I don't return with them, I have lost them. If I do return with them, I haven't added them. ---M2
I mean I guess I can’t imagine spending much time watching this current dumpster fire either lol. I don’t even get them on my current TV package which is now Sling.
Tomorrows cornfield extravaganza might be the last game I watch on purpose all season. Barring any unexpected call ups like a Elly call up in September or something.
I just don’t buy for a second that the Reds will draft the best players even if they are in a position to do so. They’ve had good and bad drafts pretty recently. It’s not like they’ve permanently turned a corner.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
Not kidding at all. That was not tanking. It was moving money that would not lead to a playoff series victory towards cheaper assets that would. I don't call that tanking. The Blazers tanked,...intentionally sitting players who could play and calling them injured when they weren't so that the team could lose more games no matter how much the players and Chauncey tried to win.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
1. The odds that the Reds get the first pick are going to be extremely low whether they finish with the 3rd or 5th worst record. 16% vs. 10%.
2. Assuming they get the #1 pick, the difference between the player the Reds would draft with the #1 pick and the #5 pick is rather small.
Here are the #1 picks in the draft over the last 20 years:
Bryan Bullington
Delmon Young
Matt Bush
Justin Upton
Luke Hovhevar
David Price
Tim Bechham
Stephen Strasburg
Bryce Harper
Gerrit Cole
Carlos Correa
Mark Appel
Brady Aiken
Dansby Swanson
Mickey Montiak
Royce Lewis
Casey Mize
Adley Rutschman
Spencer Torkelson
Henry Davis
Jackson Holliday
Here are the #5 players taken in the draft over the last 20 years:
Clint Everts
Chris Lubanski
Mark Rogers
Ryan Braun
Brandon Morrow
Matt Wieters
Buster Posey
Matt Hobgood
Drew Pomeranz
Bubba Sterling
Kyle Zimmer
Jackson Frazier
Nick Gordon
Kyle Tucker
Corey Ray
Kyle Wright
Jonathan India
Riley Greene
Austin Martin
Colton Cowser
Elijah Green
With the first pick there were 7 players with at least 10 career WAR, 6 with at least 30 career WAR, 1 with at least 40 career WAR
With the fifth pick there were 6 players with at least 10 career WAR, 2 with at least 30 career WAR, 2 with at least 40 career WAR
An advantage with the first pick, but still lots of swings and misses. The draft is a crap shoot, no matter where you draft.
Hoping to change my username to 75769024
Marc elias was literally hired to follow the Astros model. They stated baldly it was a tank. And that was just the public statements. I even know from not-public statements. You are just laughably wrong.
Well, that's what those words mean. He was here. If they don't keep him, he will have been lost/subtracted. I headed out the door today with two shoes on my feet. If I don't return with them, I have lost them. If I do return with them, I haven't added them. ---M2
cumberlandreds (08-11-2022),New Fever (08-20-2022),REDREAD (08-20-2022)
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