Thoughts on win totals for years 2023-2025?

[OldFashionedRed]

Please share how you think the Reds will fare in those seasons. Win totals, highlights, and payroll numbers. You're teaching me

[Ron Madden]

Please share how you think the Reds will fare in those seasons. Win totals, highlights, and payroll numbers. You're teaching me

With no way of knowing the make up of the rosters for those seasons there's no way of predicting any of that now.

[KeefeCato]

Please share how you think the Reds will fare in those seasons. Win totals, highlights, and payroll numbers. You're teaching me

Here is what they need to do to play at or above .500 next year.
1. Be more healthy. Be near the bottom of the league in IL moves.
Get Stephenson, Votto and India 100%.
2. They need to sign a couple of left hand hitting OFers. Not stars but guys who are capable of hitting 20-25 HR and might need to sit against LHP. There is always plenty of these type free agents thar can be signed on 1 year cheaper deals.
3. Sign 2-3 younger mid tier relievers. Guys capable of pitching the 6th -8th innings and hold leads. Might have to go 2 year deals on these guys and that's fine. They wouldn't command elite pay.
4. Sign a veteran starting pitcher 30 or under who has had a solid career but maybe struggled this year. A guy who is looking to bounce back and get one big payday after next season.
5. These things would at least make them competitive for next year barring a lot of injuries.
If they are out of WC contention in July trade some of these guys for more prospects. If they are in the race look to add a player or two.
As for the following years who knows? Depends on how many of the kids do well in 2024 and beyond.

[REDREAD]

Please share how you think the Reds will fare in those seasons. Win totals, highlights, and payroll numbers. You're teaching me

My prediction:

2023: 60-102
2024: 65 - 98
2025: 70- 92
2026: Teardown.

[Kinsm]

...there's no way of predicting any of that now.

Morgan Freeman's voice comes over the intercom

[redsfan9988]

2023: 68-94
2024: 74-88
2025: 79-83

[westofyou]

Soothsayers say that this market and ownership group is too unstable to predict

[mth123]

If they sign a couple of solid starting pitchers, I think they can play near .500 (76 to 78 wins) even with a ragtag group of position players. If they don't sign 2 solid starters, they lose at least 90 games no matter what they do on the position side.

[KronoRed]

2025 is the year...82 wins.

[redsfan9988]

2025 is the year...82 wins.

I think 2026 is the year. Greene/Ashcraft/Lodolo should be fully established and in their primes. Hopefully some of the Williamson/Abbott/Boyle/Petty/Stoudt/Hajjar lottery tickets will be paying off by then. Guys like de la Cruz, Marte, Arroyo, Steer, etc should be getting established, and with a couple of well-timed FA deals, maybe they can push for 90 wins. It’ll be a short window with the big 3 SPs approaching FA. Probably 2026 and 2027 only. Make it count, i guess.

[cumberlandreds]

I wouldn't fathom a guess past next season. Just way too far out. But 2023 promises to be as bad as this one unless ownership does a complete turn about and is able to sign multiple good MLB players. I am not holding my breath on that one. So my guess for next season on wins is about 55.

[Bob Sheed]

Maybe they'll get lucky and Joe Burrow will be their reward for penny pinching and incompetency.

[TNRED]

I think 2026 is the year. Greene/Ashcraft/Lodolo should be fully established and in their primes. Hopefully some of the Williamson/Abbott/Boyle/Petty/Stoudt/Hajjar lottery tickets will be paying off by then. Guys like de la Cruz, Marte, Arroyo, Steer, etc should be getting established, and with a couple of well-timed FA deals, maybe they can push for 90 wins. It’ll be a short window with the big 3 SPs approaching FA. Probably 2026 and 2027 only. Make it count, i guess.

Greene. Lodolo and Ashcraft will be gone by them because even with them being under arbitration, the cost will be too high.

[757690]

The number of wins and the payroll should be connected, and the latter is what is most unknown.

That said, I think the Reds will have around a $120-130M payroll over the next few years. They worked hard to get to that point the last two offseason, so it seems that is their sweetspot. What is clear is that the number can be anything, probably up to $200M, but this is the one that they have chosen.

With that in mind, they will still have $50M+ to spend each of the next two off seasons. That should buy them a decent pen, and fill any major holes. This off season, that would be a middle of the lineup bat in the OF and a back of the rotation starter. I think they will get all of that. How well they fill those holes will be the determining factor.

Here is my best guess based on those assumptions:

2023 - 79 Wins
2024 - 85 Wins
2025 - 89 Wins

Highlights are going to be all the young studs making their debuts, some exciting and productive, some falling flat, and most somewhere in between. But it will be fun watching all the kids play.

[Falls City Beer]

No idea how many wins. But I do want the Reds to just randomly switch course and spend a boatload on talent, causing the austerity gang to blow a gasket.