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    Re: 2023 NBA Off-Season: The Season Begins Now (Or As Soon As KD Says It Does)

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    That is a hideous contract.
    $30M per season seems rich. Wonder what Riley sees that you don't?


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    $30M per season seems rich. Wonder what Riley sees that you don't?
    Probably the next trade he's going to make.
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    Probably the next trade he's going to make.
    This handcuffs him into not being able to deal Herro for this season, at least.

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    This handcuffs him into not being able to deal Herro for this season, at least.
    That's fine. He's still cheap this season ($5.7M). When the extension kicks in, then he gives them a salary to slot to swap for a superstar.
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    Thank god the NBA is back, preseason or not. The Sixers, sans Embiid, Tucker, and Harden, strolled into Brooklyn, dropped 42 on the Nets in the first quarter, and despite blowing a 20-point lead, pulled away in the third to coast to a 19-point win.

    Tyrese Maxey went off- 20 points in 14 minutes and was the best player on the court. He just keeps improving yearly.

    Got my first look at De'Anthony Melton as a Sixer. While tying for the team lead with three of the Sixers 20 steals (!), he really isn't much of a ballhandler and his shot was off all night (2-for-10). Had some curious decisions driving into trouble.

    I'd still prefer to have Melton handle the rock if my choices are him, Matisse Thybulle, and Paul Reed. Every time I see Thybulle try to dribble, I think of how badly I stink at paddleball.

    Montrezl Foultroublz- Harrell was his usual productive self on offense, with 10 points, four offensive boards, and three assists in 12 minutes. Of course, he also picked up 6 fouls in the same span. Add in Paul Reed, and the primary backup bigs combined for 25 points and 10 boards in 32 minutes.

    I'm going to hold off on my annual Isaiah Joe fanfest. He shot great in the Summer League, was 3-for-6 from three tonight, but I'm going to say he stinks this year. Maybe that'll help once the regular season starts.

    Julian Champagnie, undrafted out of St. John's, looked pretty good with 15 points (5-for-10, 3-for-7 from deep), 7 boards, and 2 steals in 18 minutes of C-squad action. Jaden Springer was also pretty good after the Sixers went deep into the bench. His handle has definitely improved and the game seems to be slowing down for him on the offensive end. His jump shot release is still a little slow and he tends to want to drive into traffic too often, mostly without an open lane or a real plan. Defensively though, he's a menace and the kid can jump out of the gym. Work. In. Progress.

    Man, was it nice to see a squad missing three starters resemble a starting-quality NBA unit. Even the bench resembled an actual NBA bench squad.

    Ben Simmons played 19 minutes. While he hasn't played for a year and a half, I didn't see anything to suggest that he spent any of that time working on his game. Not a surprise, but he still can't shoot a lick, and seemed to be basically freelancing the whole time. The contest was on the YES network, but I forgot about that and didn't anticipate a Simmons post-game interview. When I figured it out, I browser-hung up on him.
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    Who's Who of Sonics legends in the "refurbished" Key Arena tonight. Would have been nice to see.

    Scrooge Jody Allen doesn't televise it for Trailblazer fans, so they are blacked out from the Clippers' (home team in this one as Balmer gives a speech) broadcast or League Pass streaming.

    Cheapskate Jody Allen caved in to public pressure (though it was probably a personal message from Dame that did it I'm unaware of) and will send the broadcasting team (bare bones, I imagine) on the road to do the broadcast of regular season games instead of from their dens in their homes back in the Northwest.
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    Just saw the video of Green hitting Poole at practice.


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    Yep, Green connected big time. Not that it's going to surprise anyone in regards to Drays character but I can't help but consider that it's just another thing Dray does, takes that team to an uncomfortable level of intensity, even before the season starts. Not justifying violence at all, just that im not surprised in the least bit.

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    I watched the Draymond video.....and for the record, I am no fan of the man....never have been. I agree a suspension is appropriate because he did initiate contact when he bumped Poole with his chest. Still, Poole responded with an aggressive shove which was an escalator in the conflict, and Draymond responded. I think he responded with too much violence....thus the suspension. I will say from Poole's angle, he should take this much as a learning moment.......in life you can only control how you respond, not how someone responds to the action you take. He made the decision to escalate, and I am sure he expected Draymond to return a similar shove which would result in the skirmish being broken up....but Draymond responded how he did, not how Poole projected/expected.

    Not trying to sound like a tough guy. Adults....especially men of that size, should almost never swing on someone with a closed fist. The result can often be worse than the adolescent bloody nose. At the same time, do not shove another person that may respond by knocking you the F out. The rules are very different in person....it is not a message board or twitter. I actually have some concern about younger people going forward that have become far too comfortable "being tough guys/gals" with a keyboard, and not be able to adjust when they are not in front of a screen using an anonymous ID.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adkindo View Post
    I watched the Draymond video.....and for the record, I am no fan of the man....never have been. I agree a suspension is appropriate because he did initiate contact when he bumped Poole with his chest. Still, Poole responded with an aggressive shove which was an escalator in the conflict, and Draymond responded. I think he responded with too much violence....thus the suspension. I will say from Poole's angle, he should take this much as a learning moment.......in life you can only control how you respond, not how someone responds to the action you take. He made the decision to escalate, and I am sure he expected Draymond to return a similar shove which would result in the skirmish being broken up....but Draymond responded how he did, not how Poole projected/expected.

    Not trying to sound like a tough guy. Adults....especially men of that size, should almost never swing on someone with a closed fist. The result can often be worse than the adolescent bloody nose. At the same time, do not shove another person that may respond by knocking you the F out. The rules are very different in person....it is not a message board or twitter. I actually have some concern about younger people going forward that have become far too comfortable "being tough guys/gals" with a keyboard, and not be able to adjust when they are not in front of a screen using an anonymous ID.
    If an individual steps up on someone the way Greene did to Poole, they should expect to get punched, not shoved. Greene instigated the entire thing with that one action. That's who he is. Bobby Portis was suspended 8 games for a punch in practice in 2017. With the increased emphasis on player safety, Greene should (but won't) get 20 games for his behavior. If I were Jordan Poole, who's looking for a real payday (and like right now), I'd simply tell the Warriors that I'm not playing for them while Greene is on the team and see how that shakes out.
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    If an individual steps up on someone the way Greene did to Poole, they should expect to get punched, not shoved. Greene instigated the entire thing with that one action. That's who he is. Bobby Portis was suspended 8 games for a punch in practice in 2017. With the increased emphasis on player safety, Greene should (but won't) get 20 games for his behavior. If I were Jordan Poole, who's looking for a real payday (and like right now), I'd simply tell the Warriors that I'm not playing for them while Greene is on the team and see how that shakes out.
    OK, but he didn't punch him. Poole shoved him.....he escalated. If he would have punched Greene, I would agree with Poole being suspended. I would not complain if Greene got 20 games. I think the only place I think I differ with some others is I do not see Poole as a 100% victim. I see him as the less aggressive....as someone that took action that was clearly below the threshold of any penalty from team, but action that got him laid out nonetheless.

    I think my simple message applies to everyone, and one that I did not really grasp until well into my adult years. Not everyone thinks or responds how I would....so I have to consider that before any action I decide to take. It does not justify an over the top response to me, but by that time it may be too late for that debate. We see it everyday where someone throws up a middle finger or purposely cuts someone off in traffic "to make a point".....and the response is the other person pulling a firearm.
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    Green is a scumbag. Always has been. Always will be.
    What would you say.....ya do here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelSD View Post
    If an individual steps up on someone the way Greene did to Poole, they should expect to get punched, not shoved. Greene instigated the entire thing with that one action. That's who he is. Bobby Portis was suspended 8 games for a punch in practice in 2017. With the increased emphasis on player safety, Greene should (but won't) get 20 games for his behavior. If I were Jordan Poole, who's looking for a real payday (and like right now), I'd simply tell the Warriors that I'm not playing for them while Greene is on the team and see how that shakes out.
    I think he’d hurt his own value if he sat out. Not saying it is right, but other players wouldn’t respect him and would see him as a coward if he went that route.

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    OK, but he didn't punch him. Poole shoved him.....he escalated. If he would have punched Greene, I would agree with Poole being suspended. I would not complain if Greene got 20 games. I think the only place I think I differ with some others is I do not see Poole as a 100% victim. I see him as the less aggressive....as someone that took action that was clearly below the threshold of any penalty from team, but action that got him laid out nonetheless.

    I think my simple message applies to everyone, and one that I did not really grasp until well into my adult years. Not everyone thinks or responds how I would....so I have to consider that before any action I decide to take. It does not justify an over the top response to me, but by that time it may be too late for that debate. We see it everyday where someone throws up a middle finger or purposely cuts someone off in traffic "to make a point".....and the response is the other person pulling a firearm.
    The initial aggressive action, and contact, was made by Greene. After that, he gets what he gets. He was clearly the instigator, the aggressor, and the escalator of the situation. Had Poole swung rather than shoved Greene away (which he had every right to do), I'd have no issue with Poole's actions. The guy has a right to separate himself from the threat and to defend himself. Had Poole, instead, run up on Greene the same way, my thoughts would be different.

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    I think he’d hurt his own value if he sat out. Not saying it is right, but other players wouldn’t respect him and would see him as a coward if he went that route.
    I think in a game where $$$$ rule the roost, players would completely understand if Poole didn't want to be subject to practicing and playing with a teammate who has already shown that he's willing to seriously injure him. Even if his intention isn't to sit out, I'd still play that card, and would definitely level a "I'm not going to sign long-term" threat to leverage Greene off the team. Hell, Ben Simmons got completely horrible press for sitting out the majority of last season for various "reasons", but his Nets teammates welcomed the jerk with smiles and open arms.
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    I'm seeing where Dray is now being referred to as One Punch Man.
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