cumberlandreds (09-28-2022),Revering4Blue (09-27-2022),Ron Madden (09-27-2022)
Pirate's miserable middle relief pitching is better than the Red's miserable middle relief pitching. The 7 triple A players the Pirates are putting on the field are better than the 7 triple A players the Red's are putting on the field.
And I suspect both organizations will go with pretty much the same crowd next year.
Big Klu (09-27-2022),cumberlandreds (09-28-2022),Revering4Blue (09-28-2022)
Sparky had a pass as he already was a World Series Champion manager with both the Reds and Tigers.. Cant say the same thing for Bell. AND if they play the same way next year how can you have any faith in him leading the team to getting past the losing culture if you as a owner refuse to get the MLB players to turn this team around? So Bell can keep losing and face no accountability of not making sure his players are making adjustments etc to become a winner??
Revering4Blue (09-28-2022)
Connie Mack, Gene Mauch and Casey Stengel are three. I don't think the greatest manager in the history of the game could have done any more with this bunch. They are just flat out bad. If you ever wondered how being a fan of an expansion team felt then this years team is your answer.
Reds Fan Since 1971
Revering4Blue (09-28-2022)
Agreed. The most overblown thing in all of sports is the effect a Manager has on a baseball team. Sparky Anderson had nothing to do with the Reds acquiring Johnny Bench, Pete Rose, Tony Perez, Dave Concepcion, Don Gullett, Gary Nolan, Clay Carroll or Ken Griffey etc or even guys acquired after he arrived like Joe Morgan, Jack Billingham, Fred Norman, Cesar Geronimo,etc. Those guys are the reason he's in the Hall of Fame. Sparky was a great, likeable guy, a good voice for the team and he didn't make a lot of head scratching moves, but I imagine if he didn't have a roster full of Hall of Famers and All Stars, we'd have been scratching our head a lot more often.
Conversely, David Bell is not the reason the Reds have burned through around 60 players this year, why he opened the season with guys like Vlad or SanMartin in the rotation or why they rushed Greene and Lodolo and watched the team fall out of it early while they took their lumps. He isn't why the OF has been a patchwork of disappointments, retreads and unproven kids. He's not why they Reds have had up to 10 guys in the IL at any given time with his two best offensive players currently on the 60 day IL. He's not the reason that the bullpen was a tryout camp for a bunch of guys nobody else wanted. He's not the Reason Nick Senzel was a bust or guys like Aquino and Barrero are in the line-up every day. In fact, after the terrible start and the rotation improved with Castillo coming back and Mahle getting his act together, the team played roughly .500 ball until they decided to dump the bulk of their production at the deadline.
The Manager can definitely screw the pooch and make a team worse than it is, but sometimes teams have great talent and play great like Sparky's Reds and sometimes the players just aren't major league winning caliber players and nothing the Manager does really matters much. I'd say that this team plays hard and has stayed engaged without throwing in the towel. I think that's a credit to David Bell. Its not his fault that the roster has been filled with a bunch of minor league talents, rushed and not ready prospects or players whose 15 minutes of fame was a long time ago. This is a terrible collection of players and it wouldn't matter who the Manager is.
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cumberlandreds (09-28-2022),Revering4Blue (09-28-2022),Ron Madden (09-28-2022),Roy Tucker (09-28-2022)
We can't judge this coaching staff on wins due to the crap roster but they should be evaluated on development. A case can be made that pitchers like the 3 rookies in the rotation have improved as well as others like Sanmartin, Dunn and Cessa but hitters, not so much. There's been precious little development seen in our hitters. I think heads should roll in that area
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