Reading the article about the AFL experience, it sounds like the result of the challenge will be quick - like how you see the pitch displayed on TV. However, I consider is only the human being that makes a sport interesting and much of that is due to their flaws. It results in events and calls that we remember, argue about and tell our kids about, long after the box score is forgotten. This past week there was a soccer game where, after a goal was scored, the Video Assistant Referee was invoked to see if the goal should first have been disallowed because of offside, then another check for handball by the attacker and, finally, another check to see if a foul had been made on the goalkeeper. This all took 10 minutes before the goal was allowed to stand. This kind thing takes the pleasure out of sports.
Chip R (10-28-2022)
I watched a number of games on MiLB (since the Reds weren’t worth watching). With the pitch clock and the strike challenge it was still WAY FASTER than MLB. I think players will actually learn what pitches are strikes from this. I saw calls go both ways, but “FRAMED” strikes were the most overturned in my view.
I’ve always disliked the 5 inch outside the zone framed pitch that’s called a strike. Hopefully the real time feedback to the ump works on correcting them.
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I'm all for experimentation in the minor leagues, but I'm very very skeptical of this idea. Get the call right every time. The technology is there.
Stick to your guns.
REDREAD (11-01-2022),Roy Tucker (11-01-2022)
If you gave the home plate ump a headset and the computer told the homeplate ump to call a ball or strike, and the ump still got paid the same..
Would umps complain about that scenario?
I mean, I am sure they'd dislike losing power. Some umps are petty and like to make bad calls out of spike to "put a player in his place".. but if I Was an ump,
I guess I wouldn't care if technology made my job easier.
In this scenario. the home plate ump could stand farther away from the pitcher and have much less of a risk of getting injured by a foul tip, etc.
A home plate ump is still needed to make the call on an out at home anyhow.. so no jobs would be lost.
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REDREAD (11-01-2022)
I think the umpire would still have to remain where he is. Could he call foul tips from 10-15 feet back? Could he tell if the ball just barely hit a batter? Or if the ball hit the batter or the bat? Check swings?
This got me to thinking: When a catcher appeals a checked swing, either the first or third base ump indicates whether the batter did indeed swing or not. So, that means the ump already knows if the batter swung. Why should a catcher have to ask? I suppose getting the call right isn't all that sacrosanct after all if the ump knows the batter swung and did not call it. There are other instances in the game. Appeals as to whether a player missed a base or not. Whether he left too soon on a sac fly. If the ump knows the correct call, then why does the other team have to appeal?
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REDREAD (11-01-2022)
story here:
Umpire Scorecards, which uses MLB's own advanced pitch tracking data to rate the accuracy of every ball and strike call in a game to determine how those calls affect the outcome of a game, launched on Twitter in July 2020, just before the start of the pandemic-altered 2020 MLB season.
In the hundreds of games the platform has tracked since then, none have been perfectly called – until Hoberg's performance in the Astros' series-evening 5-2, Game 2 victory.
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/ml...ros-game-2-win
Roy Tucker (11-01-2022)
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