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    Re: 2022/2023 Ohio State Mens Basketball Thread

    Past time to move on from Holtmann. He can recruit but he can’t coach. At all.
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    I give Holtman one more year. This was always going to be a rough season with inconsistent play. I still do think they get it together and start ripping off wins, there is a lot of talent on the roster. Holtman also has one heck of a recruiting class coming in.

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    That’s what frustrating about this team is there is no consistency to the problems. Sometimes they can’t play defense. Sometimes they can’t shoot. Sometimes they make stupid mistakes. Sometimes the rotation is bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    I give Holtman one more year. This was always going to be a rough season with inconsistent play. I still do think they get it together and start ripping off wins, there is a lot of talent on the roster. Holtman also has one heck of a recruiting class coming in.
    He had one heck of a class coming into this season. Come on man, they are basically a .500 team and are dwelling in the basement of the big ten. Have losses to the likes of Minnesota and Nebraska. The team stinks, which is inexcusable because they have Brice Sensabaugh and more than enough talent to support him. Also, the fundamentals are horrendous. Awful boxing out, terrible defensive rebounding. I don't know if you watched last night but the cherry on top was the inbound pass where the player for ILL bounced it off the back of the OSU player and got an easy layup. Why in the world did Holtmann tell his players to double a player near the baseline on an inbounds pass? That is just terrible coaching and horrible fundamentals. When you have talent and the fundamentals are extremely poor you've got yourself a coaching problem.

    It is year 6. What, exactly, has he accomplished? Why can't OSU do better than him?
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    He has done a good job of getting high end talent, but his rotation choices and McBasketball playbook is just not cutting it. In his years, I still have not figured out any philosophy on either ejd of the court. There is no system, they run a perimeter weave, high low ball screens, and...., welp that's about it. McNeil is a turnover machine and gets beat continually on D, yet he logs top minutes. He has an upcoming freshman point guard and he gives the minutes to Likelie, who is an offensive liability, cannot shoot, as is Sueing. Just another hot mess that looked so promising in December.

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    OSU is 21st by Kenpom. They’ve been atrocious in close games and I don’t blame anyone who points the finger at the coach. They should not be 11-9. I think he gets one more year, but they need to win big next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRat13 View Post
    OSU is 21st by Kenpom. They’ve been atrocious in close games and I don’t blame anyone who points the finger at the coach. They should not be 11-9. I think he gets one more year, but they need to win big next year.
    I think he’s gone. Maybe a postseason run would save him but how likely is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    I think he’s gone.
    And that Notre Dame job just sitting there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    I think he’s gone. Maybe a postseason run would save him but how likely is that?
    I do not see how they can make the tourney at this point. By mid February they will likely be under .500
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRat13 View Post
    OSU is 21st by Kenpom. They’ve been atrocious in close games and I don’t blame anyone who points the finger at the coach. They should not be 11-9. I think he gets one more year, but they need to win big next year.
    I haven't watched as much of this team as I have in past years. The whole conversation leading into this season was to expect the up and down play throughout the season. They are definitely better than 11-9, and have played terrible in close games, but I don't know if that wasn't to be expected.

    The rotations seem off this year. And this is the second season in which Zed Key completely loses his confidence and becomes a drag on the team. Sueing didn't play well last night and really isn't a guy you go to when you are in need of a bucket. They are a team who need to play up and down and get into a high scoring contest, but most of the B1G is content to slow the game down.

    I think the transfers have been questionable over Holtman's tenure. Likekele at best is a roll player, McNeil could be useful as a shooter, and I don't quite get what kind of roll Holden is playing.

    At this point I hope Holtman goes young, plays the young guys over their veteran counterparts, and builds towards next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    I haven't watched as much of this team as I have in past years. The whole conversation leading into this season was to expect the up and down play throughout the season. They are definitely better than 11-9, and have played terrible in close games, but I don't know if that wasn't to be expected.

    The rotations seem off this year. And this is the second season in which Zed Key completely loses his confidence and becomes a drag on the team. Sueing didn't play well last night and really isn't a guy you go to when you are in need of a bucket. They are a team who need to play up and down and get into a high scoring contest, but most of the B1G is content to slow the game down.

    I think the transfers have been questionable over Holtman's tenure. Likekele at best is a roll player, McNeil could be useful as a shooter, and I don't quite get what kind of roll Holden is playing.

    At this point I hope Holtman goes young, plays the young guys over their veteran counterparts, and builds towards next season.
    They are basically playing the young guys at this point. It isn't really making much of a difference. The only reason they are not something like 5-15 is because of Sensabaugh and he is as good as gone after this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    They are basically playing the young guys at this point. It isn't really making much of a difference. The only reason they are not something like 5-15 is because of Sensabaugh and he is as good as gone after this year.
    As an "independent" observer I view things a tad differently. I think Brice is part of the Buckeye's problem. To me, he plays with a "me first" attitude. Great talent but he messes up team chemistry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assembly Hall View Post
    As an "independent" observer I view things a tad differently. I think Brice is part of the Buckeye's problem. To me, he plays with a "me first" attitude. Great talent but he messes up team chemistry.
    Well, that is certainly a take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Well, that is certainly a take.
    If the Bucks are to right the ship I feel Holtmann needs to "lasso" Sensabaugh in. Get him to play team ball.

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    Re: 2022/2023 Ohio State Mens Basketball Thread

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