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    Pete Rose Appeals for MLB Reinstatement in Letter to Commissioner Rob Manfred

    Pete Rose Appeals for MLB Reinstatement

    TMZ Sports obtained a copy of the letter, which included the following line:

    "I am writing today for three reasons. First, because at my age I want to be 100% sure that you understand how much I mean it when I say that I'm sorry. Second, to ask for your forgiveness. And third, because I still think every day about what it would mean to be considered for the Hall of Fame."
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    Re: Pete Rose Appeals for MLB Reinstatement in Letter to Commissioner Rob Manfred

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    Re: Pete Rose Appeals for MLB Reinstatement in Letter to Commissioner Rob Manfred

    1. Pete will not be reinstated by Manfred.
    2. If Pete would be reinstated, that does not mean he would be inducted into the Hall of Fame.
    3. Pete would not get enough votes for induction.
    4. Pete made his bed. If he had been honest and repentant 30 years ago, he may not have received a permanent ban.
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    Re: Pete Rose Appeals for MLB Reinstatement in Letter to Commissioner Rob Manfred

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    Re: Pete Rose Appeals for MLB Reinstatement in Letter to Commissioner Rob Manfred

    His big contribution is that he has taught millions of kids that if you break the rules you don't go to the HOF. No HOF for Pete while he is alive IMHO. Maybe later.

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    Re: Pete Rose Appeals for MLB Reinstatement in Letter to Commissioner Rob Manfred

    I wonder who fills out those forms for Pete?

    The picture in my mind of him doing it is disturbing.

    Somewhere in the form there has to be a box for comment:

    "Why should you be reinstated?"

    And, another one:

    "Tell us in your own words why you were banned."

    (Sorry, didn't read the first post. Unfortunately, after reading it, the image in my mind is even more disturbing.)
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    Pete will not get reinstated, certainly not in his lifetime. Even if he does, I have severe doubts that he can get elected to the HOF.

    The underage girl thing just creates too much of a spectacle that MLB will choose to avoid. The gambling and lying was plenty bad enough, but statutory rape takes the 'HOF morals' issue to a whole new level.

    I think he clearly 'deserves' HOF induction based on his playing career stats and longevity, but I just don't see it happening. Pete has only himself to blame....
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    Re: Pete Rose Appeals for MLB Reinstatement in Letter to Commissioner Rob Manfred

    I think they should wait until he's dead, then let him in. That'll teach em...

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    Re: Pete Rose Appeals for MLB Reinstatement in Letter to Commissioner Rob Manfred

    Quote Originally Posted by mbgrayson View Post
    Pete will not get reinstated, certainly not in his lifetime. Even if he does, I have severe doubts that he can get elected to the HOF.
    If he did, which I hope he doesn't, who would actually elect him? The writers? The Contemporary Baseball Era Players Committee (1980 to the present) or the Classic Baseball Era(Before 1980)?
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    Re: Pete Rose Appeals for MLB Reinstatement in Letter to Commissioner Rob Manfred

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    If he did, which I hope he doesn't, who would actually elect him? The writers? The Contemporary Baseball Era Players Committee (1980 to the present) or the Classic Baseball Era(Before 1980)?
    Pete won't ever get in while anyone is alive that remembers him. It may take 100 more years before it would be possible. I don't plan on being at that ceremony in 100 years.
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    Re: Pete Rose Appeals for MLB Reinstatement in Letter to Commissioner Rob Manfred

    Forget reinstatement for Pete Rose, MLB should finally sever all ties
    Pete Rose wants back in baseball’s good graces. Again. Nothing’s changed, mind you, but he’s asking anyway. Again.

    This time, another letter to commissioner Rob Manfred, which was leaked to the press, first reported by TMZ.

    As The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal pointed out, it’s not surprising that something involving Rose looking for attention and a spot in baseball’s Hall of Fame was leaked to the media.
    Here’s another bet that it didn’t come from MLB’s side.

    In 1989, Rose was banned for life for betting on Cincinnati Reds baseball games while he was the manager of the team.

    Know why he’s the only person in modern times to receive such a penalty?

    Because everyone in baseball knows the punishment for betting on games you’re involved in: a lifetime ban from the sport. There is no ambiguity, no gray area.

    But Rose did it anyway, over and over while manager, got caught, then lied about it for years and years and years before finally admitting yep, he did exactly what he was accused of doing — and what the evidence showed.

    Check out how he started the letter to Manfred: “I have apologized many times, both for betting on baseball games while managing the Cincinnati Reds and then for denying that I did.”

    That’s how he started it. The very first thing he said. Basically, “I went through the motions, give me what I want.” Sheesh.

    It’s easy to see through that, and to the credits of commissioners Manfred and Bud Selig, they’ve seen Rose for who he is.

    Manfred absolutely should not reinstate Rose.

    And baseball’s embrace of the gambling world — for fans — is not even remotely the same thing as a manager betting on games his team is playing. Period.
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    Re: Pete Rose Appeals for MLB Reinstatement in Letter to Commissioner Rob Manfred

    Pete should get in the Hall of Fame. He deserves it as a player, not as a human being.

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    Re: Pete Rose Appeals for MLB Reinstatement in Letter to Commissioner Rob Manfred

    I used to think this for a really long time, but Pete himself and his actions turned me against this.

    he bet on the game. so he never bet on the Reds to lose, but there were plenty of nights he didn't bet...bookies aren't stupid.
    he lied about betting on the game for a couple of decades, then only came clean because he had a book to sell...
    he bedded a 14 year old girl when he was married and in his mid-late 30s. he admitted as much, only disputes her age

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    Re: Pete Rose Appeals for MLB Reinstatement in Letter to Commissioner Rob Manfred

    Dear Pete Rose,

    Your play on the baseball field was certainly first ballot HOF worthy. And the punishment for your "crimes" should've been banishment from MLB and maybe criminal(that's for all that want you to pay some debt to society at 80 years old for something you did in your 30s). It doesn't mean you don't deserve an ounce of happiness for the rest of your life to platicate the judgmental portion of the public that thinks it does. You should be in the HOF.

    However, you not being in the HOF is better for you. You will always be remembered for being the all time hits leader. And forever people will see that and either know you were a hall of fame caliber player or wonder why you aren't in and then research it. And the debate will be around for as long as MLB is in the consciousness of the public(if it's not than the HOF becomes irrelevant anyway).

    Pete, you might not be in the hall of FAME, but you are in the top 5 percent of all MLB players and former players when it comes to fame. For instance, throughout history and the future, you are and will be more famous than Barry Larkin, Tom Seaver, Fergie Jenkins, Mariano Rivera, Tony Perez, Don Drysdale, Mike Schmidt, Brooks Robinson, Luis Aparicio, Carl Yastrzemski, Jim Rice, Reggie Jackson etc... Every HOF induction vote and ceremony will come along with the debate as to should you be in or not. So during every induction week, the names at the forefront will be the new inductees and Pete Rose. There are 340 members in the HOF, but their names are not brought up in the media every induction week. Yours is and will continue to be.

    Pete, I've always thought you belong, but when it come down to it, I think it's pretty cool that you get the uniqueness of being the most obvious player who played into a sure HOF career but aren't in. Well, there's Bonds and Clemens and those cheaters too, but they will always be grouped together as the "Steroiders". Their accomplishments on the baseball field will always be questioned as to whether they would've happened without chemical help. Yours will never be questioned. And you'll never be forgotten. You're out for a very unique reason that nobody else has, gambling on baseball. Even Shoeless Joe isn't out for that, he's out for throwing games(whether he's guilty or not).

    This controversy fits you Pete. Even as a player, you were always either hated or loved. From bowling over Ray Fosse to fighting with Bud Harrelson, there was no in-between. You were either right or wrong based on if you were loved or hated. You were polarizing while you played and you will be polarizing from that point forward forever.

    Sincerely,

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    Last edited by foster15; 11-17-2022 at 09:19 PM.

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    Re: Pete Rose Appeals for MLB Reinstatement in Letter to Commissioner Rob Manfred

    They should do a sponsered show about this and have DraftKings sponser it.
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