Next seasons roster and payroll

[krazzy]

2023 Roster: $80,105,000, if my math is correct. This includes the Griffey Jr deferred money and Moustakas’s salary. I think he will be gone by opening day.

Looks like we have about 40M to spend. Our opening day payroll last season was 110-120 M. We need a Starting Pitcher, Outfielder and a backup catcher. Would really like to use some of this money to extend a couple of our young players.

1B- LH, Joey Votto, 25M
2B- RH, Jonathan India, 720K
SS- RH, Jose Barrero, 720K
3B. RH Spencer Steer. 720K
C- RH Tyler Stephenson, 720K
C-
RF-
CF- RH Nick Senzel, 2.2N (est)
LF-LH Jake Fraley. 720K

Utility- RH Kevin Newman 2.8M (est)
Utility- SH Alejo Lopez 720K
Utility- LH TJ Friedl. 720K
Utility- RH Nic Solac 720K

SP- Greene, 720K
SP- Lodolo, 720K
SP- Ashcraft, 720K
SP-
SP- Dunn 1.1M (est) or Overton, 720K or Lewis Cessa 2.6M (est)

If Dunn or Cessa don’t get the starting spot, I think they move to the bullpen. If Overton don’t get it, I think he goes to Louisville to keep him stretched out.


RP- Tejay Antone, 800K (est)
RP- Lucas Simms, 1.3M (est)
RP- Alexis Diaz, 720K
RP- Tony Santillan, 720K
RP- Reiver SanMartin, 720K
RP-Ian Gibaut, 720K (0 options)
RP-Buck Farmer 1.725M
RP- Cessa or Dunn

Others on the roster:

Vlad Gutierrez (IL) 720K
Joel Khunel. 720K
Fernando Cruz. 720K
Ricky Karcher. 720K
Casey Legumina 720K
Lyon Richardson 720K
Levi Stoudt. 720K
Brandon Williamson
Stuart Fairchild. 720K
Matt Reynolds 720K (0 options)
Elly De La Cruz. 720K
Noelvi Marte 720K
Mike Siani. 720K

Moustakis owed 18M plus 4M buyout. I think we cut him during Spring Training of maybe earlier

Griffey Jr. owed 3.6M in 2023 and 2024. Yea, I know this don’t count towards the payroll but every time I post something like this, people bring up JR.

[Kinsm]

The Reds spend 40M$ this winter?

I'll believe that when my...and smells like rainbow sherbert.

[krazzy]

I said they would have it available. Who knows if they spend it.

[RED VAN HOT]

The Reds spend 40M$ this winter?

I'll believe that when my...and smells like rainbow sherbert.

The only reason for the trades, Farmer for Legumina and Moreta for Newman, was to save an estimated $2.4M (as opposed to improving the team). That does not speak well for further spending to improve the team.

[krazzy]

The reason for the Farmer trade was that he wasn’t worth 6 million. Newman is also a better defender and can play SS if needed a lot better than Farmer. Newman was better than Farmer last season and is projected to make 3 million less.

[Bourgeois Zee]

The reason for the Farmer trade was that he wasn’t worth 6 million. Newman is also a better defender and can play SS if needed a lot better than Farmer. Newman was better than Farmer last season and is projected to make 3 million less.

Newman hasn't graded out as a better defender.

And I don't give two craps about ownerships' millions.

Screw 'em.

Pay for a real team or sell them to someone who will.

[Bob Sheed]

The Reds spend 40M$ this winter?

I'll believe that when my...and smells like rainbow sherbert.

Oh they'll spend it.

What's 40 million divided by the number of Reds owners?

[Kc61]

The reason for the Farmer trade was that he wasn’t worth 6 million. Newman is also a better defender and can play SS if needed a lot better than Farmer. Newman was better than Farmer last season and is projected to make 3 million less.

Farmer wasn’t worth $6 million in Reds’ world. He was worth $6 million in Twins world. He is apparently worth that much in arbitration world, since that is the estimate.

I wouldn’t count on much spending by the Reds this off-season. Maybe yes for stop gaps or players coming back from injury or bad seasons.

[InsaneinthBrame]

2023 Roster: $80,105,000, if my math is correct. This includes the Griffey Jr deferred money and Moustakas’s salary. I think he will be gone by opening day.

Looks like we have about 40M to spend. Our opening day payroll last season was 110-120 M. We need a Starting Pitcher, Outfielder and a backup catcher. Would really like to use some of this money to extend a couple of our young players.

1B- LH, Joey Votto, 25M
2B- RH, Jonathan India, 720K
SS- RH, Jose Barrero, 720K
3B. RH Spencer Steer. 720K
C- RH Tyler Stephenson, 720K
C-
RF-
CF- RH Nick Senzel, 2.2N (est)
LF-LH Jake Fraley. 720K

Utility- RH Kevin Newman 2.8M (est)
Utility- SH Alejo Lopez 720K
Utility- LH TJ Friedl. 720K
Utility- RH Nic Solac 720K

SP- Greene, 720K
SP- Lodolo, 720K
SP- Ashcraft, 720K
SP-
SP- Dunn 1.1M (est) or Overton, 720K or Lewis Cessa 2.6M (est)

If Dunn or Cessa don’t get the starting spot, I think they move to the bullpen. If Overton don’t get it, I think he goes to Louisville to keep him stretched out.


RP- Tejay Antone, 800K (est)
RP- Lucas Simms, 1.3M (est)
RP- Alexis Diaz, 720K
RP- Tony Santillan, 720K
RP- Reiver SanMartin, 720K
RP-Ian Gibaut, 720K (0 options)
RP-Buck Farmer 1.725M
RP- Cessa or Dunn

Others on the roster:

Vlad Gutierrez (IL) 720K
Joel Khunel. 720K
Fernando Cruz. 720K
Ricky Karcher. 720K
Casey Legumina 720K
Lyon Richardson 720K
Levi Stoudt. 720K
Brandon Williamson
Stuart Fairchild. 720K
Matt Reynolds 720K (0 options)
Elly De La Cruz. 720K
Noelvi Marte 720K
Mike Siani. 720K

Moustakis owed 18M plus 4M buyout. I think we cut him during Spring Training of maybe earlier

Griffey Jr. owed 3.6M in 2023 and 2024. Yea, I know this don’t count towards the payroll but every time I post something like this, people bring up JR.

There is an error in your numbers. Guys on the 40 but not on 26 do not count on the payroll they also get paid minor league pay. This makes it closer to 70 committed to mlb club.

[InsaneinthBrame]

Yes 40 million of additional spend would have the Reds spend as much as last year but are they going to spend it. I see them spending like they did last year by getting guys like Minor Strickland Solano Drury Moran.

[Joeyjection19]

Oh they'll spend it.

What's 40 million divided by the number of Reds owners?

Twenty-eight cents, which is also part of the problem.

[TexasRedsFan]

Pay for a real team or sell them to someone who will.

THIS all day every day. Unfortunately I think our only hope is the latter.

[mikemo14]

The reason for the Farmer trade was that he wasn’t worth 6 million. Newman is also a better defender and can play SS if needed a lot better than Farmer. Newman was better than Farmer last season and is projected to make 3 million less.

Could have signed Jose Iglesias for basically the same as Newman and he is a far better defender and hitter.

[Joeyjection19]

Is Gallo gettable on a one year show-me for ten million or less?

[krazzy]

Iglesias had a 90 OPS+, Newman 94. Newman was the better hitter last year.