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    Reds Remain In Slow Burn of Their Rebuild

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    The setup for managerial press conferences at the Major League Baseball winter meetings has two managers speaking simultaneously on separate sides of a Grand Hyatt ballroom.

    On one side of the room Monday was Texas Rangers manager Bruce Bochy, hired in October. He was surrounded by more than three dozen reporters and at least five TV cameras. He was asked several questions about Jacob deGrom, the two-time Cy Young winner who signed a five-year, $185 million contract.

    Cincinnati Reds manager David Bell spoke on the other side of the room, surrounded by six reporters and no TV cameras.

    It was a stark illustration of the Reds’ current standing in the league.

    The Rangers lost 94 games last season, and they’re making an aggressive push to upgrade their roster.

    The Reds lost 100 games and remain in the slow burn of a rebuild.

    No, the Reds won’t be the team making a big splash in free agency with their own payroll constraints set from ownership.

    ‘I'm focused on the guys that we had at the end of the season, the second half of the season,” Bell said Monday.

    “It's just the way the game goes. I know that can change between now and spring training. You’re always looking to make improvements and that’s just kind of the way things go, but for the most part, really focused on the guys we have.”

    The Reds had a 21-39 record following the trade deadline last season, and that’s their starting point.
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    Re: Reds Remain In Slow Burn of Their Rebuild

    Lmao. If this were any other business they would be about 6 months from going out of business. It’s MLB, though, so the ownership group is making tons and tons and tons of cash.

    So sad.
    What would you say.....ya do here?

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    Re: Reds Remain In Slow Burn of Their Rebuild

    I feel kinda sorry for David Bell and Nick Krall having to answer all the embarrassing questions brought on by this cheap ass ownership.

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    Re: Reds Remain In Slow Burn of Their Rebuild

    The Reds seem to have the attitude of “hey, are we really playing this season?”

    Maybe they can have free intrasquad games at Prasco Park with all the vaunted rookies. With free Chick-fil-A sandwiches and soft serve ice cream.
    She used to wake me up with coffee ever morning

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    Re: Reds Remain In Slow Burn of Their Rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Tucker View Post
    The Reds seem to have the attitude of “hey, are we really playing this season?”

    Maybe they can have free intrasquad games at Prasco Park with all the vaunted rookies. With free Chick-fil-A sandwiches and soft serve ice cream.
    Prasco will likely have better attendance on fil-A nights than GABP will have when the Reds are playing.

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    I hate this ownership group. Bunch of losers born on 3rd base bragging about how they tripled while wearing loafers.
    Where we gonna go?

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    Re: Reds Remain In Slow Burn of Their Rebuild

    I just have a fear, instead of having a vision of what they want this team to be and building it as those players are available, they are going to make the same mistakes they did before and decide one day "time to spend money!". This will result in overpaying for square pegs and those contracts will be the justification for being right back here in 2026.

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    Re: Reds Remain In Slow Burn of Their Rebuild

    I, too, have a fear of the reds trying. They need to not try and continue being the laughingstock of MLB. This is the way.
    What would you say.....ya do here?

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    Re: Reds Remain In Slow Burn of Their Rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by Strikes Out Looking View Post
    I hate this ownership group. Bunch of losers born on 3rd base bragging about how they tripled while wearing loafers.
    Again, fingers crossed, they are using all the saved money to buy-out minority shares so that they can sell all (or most) of the club in the near future.

    Bob will turn 82 next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinsm View Post
    Again, fingers crossed, they are using all the saved money to buy-out minority shares so that they can sell all (or most) of the club in the near future.

    Bob will turn 82 next year.
    Is that rumor out there? Or more wishful thinking?

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    Re: Reds Remain In Slow Burn of Their Rebuild

    This cheap ownership just had the highest payroll in team history and apparently that wasn't enough for most fans. It led to zero runs in the playoffs in 2020 and a huge choke down the stretch in 2021. The Reds decided to blow it up and start over and the fans want them to add even more pieces. The players blew it, the window has closed, but the fans want those same players to remain on the team...why?? They had their chance and were given everything they needed and could not get it done. Its time to move onto this new group of young players or move on as a fan. The same fan narrative is getting stale, the Reds are trying to set up this franchise to compete for a decade, not go all in for a year or two...all just my opinion and I have been through the season of 1982, it could be a lot worse...believe me.

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    Re: Reds Remain In Slow Burn of Their Rebuild

    This is 2015-2018 all over again only instead of getting to watch prime Votto we have 40 year old Votto. They are going to rely on the farm system and dumpster dive for any help for the homegrown talent.

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    Re: Reds Remain In Slow Burn of Their Rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by #13 View Post
    This cheap ownership just had the highest payroll in team history and apparently that wasn't enough for most fans. It led to zero runs in the playoffs in 2020 and a huge choke down the stretch in 2021. The Reds decided to blow it up and start over and the fans want them to add even more pieces. The players blew it, the window has closed, but the fans want those same players to remain on the team...why?? They had their chance and were given everything they needed and could not get it done. Its time to move onto this new group of young players or move on as a fan. The same fan narrative is getting stale, the Reds are trying to set up this franchise to compete for a decade, not go all in for a year or two...all just my opinion and I have been through the season of 1982, it could be a lot worse...believe me.
    For me the straw that broke the camel's back was Phil opening his trap and pretty much shart all over those who paid his over inflated salary/dividend. Also this franchise has zero degree of nuance, it's all or nothing. There's never a stable plan and it can change on a whim. Even when we "try", they find the most clunky options and try to force it into something that it doesn't belong. Like Choo playing CF, never filling the LF when Ludwick got hurt, having a horrible bench throughout the run, Suarez to SS, signing Moustakas at all, moving Senzel to CF, etc. I think if the Reds had any modicum of success they wouldn't catch as much flack but Phil pulled back the curtain for everyone to see. They don't care about winning, just what makes the bottom line look good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyInTheBank View Post
    Is that rumor out there? Or more wishful thinking?
    Wishful thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #13 View Post
    This cheap ownership just had the highest payroll in team history and apparently that wasn't enough for most fans. It led to zero runs in the playoffs in 2020 and a huge choke down the stretch in 2021. The Reds decided to blow it up and start over and the fans want them to add even more pieces. The players blew it, the window has closed, but the fans want those same players to remain on the team...why?? They had their chance and were given everything they needed and could not get it done. Its time to move onto this new group of young players or move on as a fan. The same fan narrative is getting stale, the Reds are trying to set up this franchise to compete for a decade, not go all in for a year or two...all just my opinion and I have been through the season of 1982, it could be a lot worse...believe me.
    "It could be a lot worse"

    Loser mentality

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    Re: Reds Remain In Slow Burn of Their Rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by #13 View Post
    This cheap ownership just had the highest payroll in team history and apparently that wasn't enough for most fans. It led to zero runs in the playoffs in 2020 and a huge choke down the stretch in 2021. The Reds decided to blow it up and start over and the fans want them to add even more pieces. The players blew it, the window has closed, but the fans want those same players to remain on the team...why?? They had their chance and were given everything they needed and could not get it done. Its time to move onto this new group of young players or move on as a fan. The same fan narrative is getting stale, the Reds are trying to set up this franchise to compete for a decade, not go all in for a year or two...all just my opinion and I have been through the season of 1982, it could be a lot worse...believe me.
    You know who doesn't think in terms of "windows?" St. Louis Cardinals and Milwaukee Brewers. They go after it every year. That's all we want from the Reds.
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