The Reds can't compete for top tier FA's and I don't think that would makes sense however I think you would want them to go out and sign Tier II and III FA's...
They need to realize the window of Greene and India etc being cheap only lasts so long.
The Reds can't compete for top tier FA's and I don't think that would makes sense however I think you would want them to go out and sign Tier II and III FA's...
They need to realize the window of Greene and India etc being cheap only lasts so long.
If you have a losing record at Reds games, please stop going.
Old school 1983 (12-06-2022)
Why spend money to just spend money? Its like going to the mall or shopping online because you are bored. The Reds do not need to go out and spend a bunch money and finish last or maybe make the last wild card spot at best. They will be stuck in the continuous 73-83 win total with the fans screaming for more pieces and never compete for a WS. If it was easy to just spend to win a WS, why haven't the Yankees or Angels won a WS lately? A $100m payroll is not much different than a $70m payroll. Lets get Votto and Moose off the books, sign a few short term FA pieces, let the young players develop, and see what happens...JMO
Old school 1983 (12-06-2022)
It goes back to "where you gonna' go?" for me. This ownership can pound sand.
"He reminds me of me when I was that age -- the way he plays the game, I mean," Pete Rose talking about Chris Sabo
REDREAD (12-07-2022)
"He reminds me of me when I was that age -- the way he plays the game, I mean," Pete Rose talking about Chris Sabo
Two things: 1. When the Reds supposedly did everything they could and the players just blew it, there were some obvious holes in the depth of that team that should have been anticipated and filled. But even short of that, not winning a playoff game is hardly a reason to say that investing more resources in the team - which made it significantly better - is a failed approach. 2. Cutting last year's and this year's payroll helps the future if these cuts are added to future payrolls. Do you seriously think that is the plan? If so, why don't the Reds say that? It could give a better impression than that the current public perception that they are cutting the payroll just to save money and fatten their wallets.
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Ron Madden (12-06-2022)
I'm not at all in support of the game being completely out of control, in terms of salary inflation like it has been for quite awhile now. You seem to be fully in support of that. No thanks.
Edit:. What the game desperately needs is a salary cap, and a financial model more friendly to the pockets of the average fan. Yes, please.
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"He reminds me of me when I was that age -- the way he plays the game, I mean," Pete Rose talking about Chris Sabo
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By anyone's definition, the Reds had a horrible PR year in 2022. "Where are you gonna go?" went viral.
It's somehow surprising to me, even though I know it shouldn't be, that their reaction to this was to say "we're actually gonna spend less money this year"
And fine, spending money stupidly just to appear to do something isn't a good idea. But at least come out and try to reassure fans that the team is headed in a good direction. But they don't even seem to be doing that.
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Krall said their plan is to eliminate peaks and valleys, which sounds like something a guy without a good plan might say. To their credit, the Reds are halfway there. They've eliminated the peaks. The action plan to eliminate the valleys is still forthcoming. Based on 2022 and what's apparently coming in 2023, I'm wondering if there was a typo and he actually said eliminate the peaks and accentuate the valleys.
Or maybe he was referring to eliminating peaks and valleys in payroll. If so, doesn't that blow the suggestion out of the water from some here that savings from a lower payroll in 2023 and beyond might result in a higher payroll at some future point when the team is ready to compete?
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Crumbley (12-08-2022)
Eliminate peaks and valleys, huh? I’m not sure what peaks he’s talking about but that statement sounds like an organizational goal of consistent mediocrity...that is, if they can ever escape the valley they are living in.
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