My feeling on Rolen pretty much mirrors what a lot of folks here have said. If you look at the numbers I guess you can make the case but I don’t think Ruth, Aaron, Cobb…Rolen. The problem I have is when you don’t keep it to the elite players and start letting in guys who we’re very good you have a very hard time justifying keeping other people out. For example if Rolen gets in due to being an elite defender with a good bat, how do you say Andruw Jones is not a HoF? I mean 10 Gold Gloves and a good hitter