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    Re: The 2023 QB Carousel Thread

    February 8th, 2023 at 6:00pm CST by Ben Levine

    The Commanders continue to reiterate that Sam Howell will be their QB1 heading into training camp. During an appearance on PFT Live, head coach Ron Rivera reinforced Howell’s standing as the top quarterback, but he acknowledged the team may bring in a veteran to push him. “The biggest thing we decided is he will start out as QB1,” Rivera said (via Charean Williams of ProFootballTalk.com). “He will most certainly get the first opportunity. We go into OTAs and minicamp, he’ll be QB1. He’ll fight for that position. We’ll give him every opportunity to earn it, and we’ll see what happens when we get into training camp and through it.” Last year, the Commanders pursued QBs like Deshaun Watson, Russell Wilson, and Derek Carr. This time around, they’re not looking to make a big splash at the position, as Rivera dismissed the notion that the organization would pursue a big name.

    “No. No,” Rivera said. “I think the biggest thing is we have to find a guy to come in that’s going to compete, but in terms of finding a guy you’re going to have to spend a lot of capital on, no. We’re not looking for a guy we’ve got to spend a lot of capital on. We’re looking for a guy that’s going to come in and compete first and foremost.” Rivera expressed a similar sentiment to ESPN’s John Keim, noting that the front office will not spend “big capital” at the position (Twitter link). The team will save a significant chunk of cap when they inevitably cut Carson Wentz, but we previously heard that the organization liked the idea of starting a QB on a rookie contract and spending those savings elsewhere. Howell, a 2022 fifth-round pick, only got one start as a rookie, completing 11 of his 19 pass attempts for 169 yards, one touchdown, and one interception en route to a Week 18 win over the Cowboys.

    Meanwhile, Rivera told Keim that the Commanders have reached out to defensive tackle Daron Payne‘s reps but have yet to talk money. The impending free agent had his best season in 2022, finishing with a career-high 11.5 sacks. Another important defensive line decision will surround former second-overall pick Chase Young; the Commanders will have to soon make a decision on his fifth-year option. Rivera told Nicki Jhabvala of the Washington Post that the team has yet to make a decision on Young, noting that they still need to evaluate his health and development (Twitter link). However, Rivera wasn’t too worried about the perception if the Commanders decline the player’s option, noting that the Commanders followed a similar path with Payne. “No. Because that’s what we did with Daron,” Rivera explained. “It cost us. But it cost us in a good way, because the young man played, he did things the right way. He didn’t sit out, he didn’t withhold, he could have done that sit-in during training camp, but he didn’t. And because he didn’t, now we’re in that position where we have to find a way to say thank you, OK, you’ve earned it.”

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    Re: The 2023 QB Carousel Thread

    https://www.profootballrumors.com/20...-lamar-jackson

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    Ravens Likely To Use Exclusive Franchise Tag On Lamar Jackson

    February 8th, 2023 at 4:13pm CST by Sam Robinson

    Ravens GM Eric DeCosta said last month he has gone back and forth on the exclusive-or-nonexclusive decision regarding Lamar Jackson‘s imminent franchise tag. A month from the March tag deadline, the sense is the Ravens will be the rare team to unholster the exclusive tag. The Ravens should be expected use the exclusive tag, Ian Rapoport of NFL.com said during a Pat McAfee Show appearance (video link). Execs around the league believe the Ravens should use this rarely deployed player-retention tool to cuff their five-year starter, Jeremy Fowler of ESPN.com adds. The Ravens have until March 7 to tag Jackson. Nonexclusive franchise tag figures surfaced last week. While it would cost Baltimore more than $32.42MM to use the standard franchise tag on Jackson, an exclusive tag — which prevents other teams from negotiating with players — is expected to come in just north of $45MM. That is uncharted cap terrain for the Ravens, who rostered Jackson on a $23MM fifth-year option in 2022.

    The exclusive quarterback tag brings a price hike into historic cap territory, and given Jackson’s path since becoming extension-eligible, the Ravens will likely be forced to carry that number on their payroll for a while. The sides have not made progress since DeCosta and John Harbaugh emphatically endorsed a Jackson return, Jeff Zrebiec of The Athletic notes (subscription required). Although the Ravens have not given up hope of extending Jackson before free agency, per Zrebiec, everything that has transpired to this point does not suggest that will happen. A potentially unbridgeable gap in guaranteed money exists here, with the Ravens having offered $133MM fully guaranteed last year and Jackson seeking a number that outflanks Deshaun Watson‘s record-shattering $230MM figure. In a vacuum, Jackson is justified in asking for that. But teams are treating the Browns’ 2022 Watson deal — which came amid a four-team trade sweepstakes — as an outlier. Steve Bisciotti said last year he wished the Browns had not gone to that guarantee place for Watson, and it indeed affected the former Browns franchise’s talks with its passer. The Ravens remain unlikely to offer a fully guaranteed deal, Zrebiec adds.

    Jackson skipped the Ravens’ offseason workouts last year. Absent a deal, it should not be expected the five-year veteran will show for Baltimore’s voluntary portion this year. Until Jackson signs his franchise tender, he would not be obligated to attend minicamp or training camp, either. With the Ravens retooling on offense this offseason, Jackson attendance will be more important than it was last year. The Ravens are also involving the pending free agent in their OC search. Compared to most teams, the Ravens are in good cap place. They hold nearly $27MM in space, sitting within the top 10 leaguewide. That would change once a Jackson exclusive tag enters the picture. The dual-threat star has refused Baltimore’s best offers thus far, and although he must sign the tag to lock in that $45MM, the self-represented player’s unorthodox approach regarding his second contract could certainly lead to him making the Ravens sweat leading up to the season.

    A nonexclusive tag stipulates teams can pry tagged performers away with two first-round picks. The Ravens using the exclusive tag would allow them to set a different trade market, and while Rapoport adds a trade remains unlikely, paying the extra $13MM would move the boundary for trade compensation. Watson is the only quarterback to fetch three first-round picks since the 1970s, but Jackson — a three-time Pro Bowler with an MVP honor on his resume — has outperformed the controversial QB. Then again, it would require more adjustments to a team’s offense to build an attack around Jackson’s unique skillset. Trade calls should be expected, Fowler adds, but this part of the Jackson process does not appear to have ignited just yet. A January report pointed to teams believing the Ravens will, in fact, make Jackson available. But DeCosta and Harbaugh’s strong endorsements push back on that. Though, pivoting to a trade after such statements would not exactly be an NFL first. We do appear headed toward a full-fledged third round of these negotiations, and no end is in sight.
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    Re: The 2023 QB Carousel Thread

    February 8th, 2023 at 2:03pm CST by Sam Robinson

    After considering options, Brock Purdy is likely to undergo surgery to repair his injured elbow soon. The 49ers quarterback is expected to go under the knife in two weeks. Purdy will meet with a Dallas-based doctor on Feb. 21, according to NFL.com’s Ian Rapoport, who notes (via Twitter) the rookie sensation is on track to undergo UCL surgery on Feb. 22. It does not appear Tommy John surgery is on tap. Purdy is expected to recover in advance of training camp, Rapoport adds. This stands to mean the previously rumored internal brace surgery will be the seventh-round pick’s course of action. If that is the case, Purdy could be ready to throw in a few months. A Tommy John procedure would knock him out for much longer, though it would not sideline Purdy as long as it does MLB pitchers. Dr. Keith Meister, the Texas Rangers’ team doctor, is on track to perform the surgery. Purdy, however, might not be full go until the end of the preseason. He and the 49ers discussed a six-month recovery timetable, Matt Barrows of The Athletic tweets. With the surgery coming in two weeks, following that timeline extends to the close of the August slate. That will be cutting it pretty close for Purdy’s regular-season availability. Though, a more accurate timetable will come to light after the operation.

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    Re: The 2023 QB Carousel Thread

    Going into the dark spaces of Aaron Rodgers' mind...

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    Re: The 2023 QB Carousel Thread

    Ian Rapaport says Derek Carr has informed teams that he will not approve a trade to any team. He's expected to be released by Vegas.
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    Aaron Rodgers has entered the darkness.......
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    Re: The 2023 QB Carousel Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    Aaron Rodgers has entered the darkness.......
    Do we really think there's any way he walks away from $60mill guaranteed?

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    Re: The 2023 QB Carousel Thread

    There are 3 possibilities. Trade, return to GB or retire. Retire is lowest of the possibilities for me.
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    Re: The 2023 QB Carousel Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    Aaron Rodgers has entered the darkness.......
    School's out. What did you expect?

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    Re: The 2023 QB Carousel Thread

    While discussing Lamar Jackson's contract situation with Mike Florio about a week ago, Rich Eisen said there are whispers that say "there is no bargaining table". They are done with him, and he with them.

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    Re: The 2023 QB Carousel Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    While discussing Lamar Jackson's contract situation with Mike Florio about a week ago, Rich Eisen said their are whispers that say "there is no bargaining table". They are done with him, and he with them.

    https://twitter.com/Flockville/statu...12281497829385
    So much for the 200% chance he's coming back from their coach

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    Re: The 2023 QB Carousel Thread

    If Lamar isnt going to be in Baltimore that throws everything into chaos as far as figuring out where QBs will end up.

    You'd have to imagine Vegas, New York, Tennessee, Indianapolis, Washington, Tampa, Carolina, New Orleans, and Atlanta at a minimum will want to at least talk to Baltimore to see what it would take.

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    Re: The 2023 QB Carousel Thread

    NM wrong thread
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    Re: The 2023 QB Carousel Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by KoryMac5 View Post
    Looks like AZ is leaning Gannon who has promised to bring Bieniemy as his OC which is wild to me...
    Wrong thread?

    During presser for new HC Steichen, Owner Jim Irsay, said they wanted an Offensive coach since they were going after a young QB. . Mentioned the Alabama QB looked good.
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    Re: The 2023 QB Carousel Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo Rijo View Post
    If Lamar isnt going to be in Baltimore that throws everything into chaos as far as figuring out where QBs will end up.

    You'd have to imagine Vegas, New York, Tennessee, Indianapolis, Washington, Tampa, Carolina, New Orleans, and Atlanta at a minimum will want to at least talk to Baltimore to see what it would take.
    Lamar if he hits the market will surely find someone to pay him major $$. But (and I for sure might be wrong), I don't think the market will fall all over themselves fighting over him.
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