Bally Sports possible bankruptcy?

[Tony Cloninger]

Do you know what the word obsession means?

Yes. I’ve heard of it and learned it here.

Chucky and his obsession with backup 1B for the Reds.

Half the boards obsession with Dusty’s lineups and if Corey Patterson was dating his daughter.

[Kinsm]

Bally should stop advertising every other commercial on YouTube if they don’t have any money.

[M2]

It hurts my feelings? Seriously though it’s talked about more and more as if people are wishing it to happen. At least that’s how I’m reading it. Maybe I’m obsessed with obsessing over other’s obsession.

I think it might be that last part.

It's really just a "where's the nearest safe water" if the well gets poisoned type of thing.

[kaldaniels]

There’s a needle to be threaded where all our prospects succeed, ownership buys in and it’s peace and love all around.

But there’s an another needle where everything could go to hell. We are talking about that needle.

And by chance, anyone want to opine on which needle we seem to be closer to right now?

[Big Klu]

It means 80s dance club gold.

Every time I hear this song, I think of "Saturday Night's Main Event", the NBC/WWF collaboration in the late 80's and early 90's. ("Obsession" was the opening theme song.)

[KronoRed]

The Reds aren't moving to Nashville, if you move why would you move to a metro area that's smaller? (yeah the city is bigger but metro area is what matters)

If Montreal loses out on the Rays, maybe start worrying then.

[GAC]

FuboTV apparently picked up Bally recently. YTTV doesn't seem to have any plans on doing so. In fact, YTTV is raising prices to $73/month now, this coming after they booted MLB Network to the curb.

We've had YTTV for almost five years now, but I'm reaching my limit with them. Might dump them once we get some clarity on the Bally situation.

The only reason I went to YTTV several years ago was because they had the Red's RSN. I don't watch a lot of TV. But my wife is another story, and she has to have her TCM. And Fubo does not have any of the Turner channels or I would already be there.

I couldn't watch the Reds last Summer, and that bugs me as a retiree, so I decided it wasn't going to occur this year; but I'm not going back to cable or satellite. So I'm exploring various IpTV's that carry Bally and myriads of the other sports networks. Got a free trial on one. I also use a VPN. I just think it's BS that fans, like myself, who are willing to pay for a service, have to go through such avenues to watch their team on TV.

[TNRED]

The Reds aren't moving to Nashville, if you move why would you move to a metro area that's smaller? (yeah the city is bigger but metro area is what matters)

If Montreal loses out on the Rays, maybe start worrying then.

Nashville is a rapidly growing metro area that is almost as large as the Cincinnati metro area now. With the continuing trend of people migrating to the South, Nashville should soon overtake Cincinnati.

[jimbroznan]

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[westofyou]

Nashville is a rapidly growing metro area that is almost as large as the Cincinnati metro area now. With the continuing trend of people migrating to the South, Nashville should soon overtake Cincinnati.

And?

Same could be said of Portland.

But the Reds aren't moving to Nashville and any team that wants to will hear a LOT of noise from St. Louis, Cincinnati and Atlanta

[Wonderful Monds]

I always took heat for suggesting that relocation is going to be a possibility at some point if thing keep trending in this direction, so it’s nice to see others realize it’s a possibility. Historically speaking - relocation is not likely, but we are in uncharted territory with the plethora of financial issues surrounding the game. The Reds have an unusual and local ownership structure but in the end, money talks.

Very small odds of the Reds moving, but I really think it is imperative to the future of the franchise that the TV rights get straightened out and the franchise begins to be run in a respectable, competitive manner. It’s probably 50/50 Bob is alive in 5 years and if he’s not around Phil and Co. will probably be looking around for the highest bidder. If I was loaded had no skin in Cincinnati and wanted to buy the team, I’d look at 25 year old GABP, pull up the stakes and try to go to Nashville pronto.

Not ever going to happen with the Modell law in place.

[NeilHamburger]

I'll start worrying about the Reds moving in about a decade. They aren't going anywhere until 2037 due to their existing lease. So even if Bob dies in 5 years they aren't going anywhere pronto.

[mth123]

I'll start worrying about the Reds moving in about a decade. They aren't going anywhere until 2037 due to their existing lease. So even if Bob dies in 5 years they aren't going anywhere pronto.

How much is the lease? Another city that wants a team may be willing to buy it out. They pay $100 Million plus for expansion fees, why wouldn't they be willing to pay the buy-out? I wouldn't take so much comfort in the lease. The numbers have exploded since that lease was signed. It may not be enough of a buy-out to deter a move.

[Cyclone792]

With technology making the world smaller it would really be a seamless transition for us out-of-towners.

Seems like the people sharing this opinion are the out-of-towners. Same as it's the out-of-towners sharing the opinion that the Reds could actually move.

There are a myriad of reasons why that will never happen. Not now. Not a decade from now. Not a century from now.

Even if somehow the Reds navigated around the Modell Law, got out of the GABP lease, found an out-of-town owner to buy a majority stake and convinced MLB to approve relocating this franchise (and that combo of all those things ringing true simultaneously has almost zero chance of happening), the Reds are interwoven as part of this city's fabric.

Out-of-towners think it's possible for that fabric to somehow be broken. People who grew up here and/or have lived here for a long time know otherwise. If you didn't grow up here or have not spent many, many years living here, you just don't have the perspective of understanding that. This might come across as being rude, but that's not my intention. I'm just saying you don't have that perspective of a Cincinnatian to grasp how much this franchise is connected to this city, both historically and moving forward.

The Reds might spend an inordinate amount of years battling for the divisional cellar due to poor ownership, but they'll do it as the Cincinnati Reds, not the Nashville Reds or some other city's Reds.

[Cyclone792]

How much is the lease? Another city that wants a team may be willing to buy it out. They pay $100 Million plus for expansion fees, why wouldn't they be willing to pay the buy-out. I wouldn't take so much comfort in the lease. The numbers have exploded since that lease was signed. It may not be enough of a buy-out to deter a move.

The Reds pay $1 per year in annual base rent. And that's not a typo.