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    Quote Originally Posted by redsfan9988 View Post
    The only circumstance I would find disappointing is if Nick Senzel gets 400+ PAs while still OPSing .600.
    Well, I got some news, Sugar Bear...

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    Re: who's your pick to click this season?

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    Benson's going to cut into Friedl's time as either the LH guy in CF or as a fourth OF playing mostly RF.

    The only way Friedl sees 500-ish PAs in Cincinnati will be injuries and a massive jump in production.
    The Reds basically only have 3 LH hitters Benson Friedl and Fraley besides Votto so I figure they those three will be playing a lot of time vs RH pitching so 500 is a real possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneinthBrame View Post
    The Reds basically only have 3 LH hitters Benson Friedl and Fraley besides Votto so I figure they those three will be playing a lot of time vs RH pitching so 500 is a real possibility.
    If you believe Friedl will take the place of Wil Myers or take most of Nick Senzel's PAs, I've got some bad news for you...

    I mean, if TJ Friedl starts hitting the ball like Kingspoint insists he can (13 triples and 25 doubles) while also stealing 30+ bases, he might. But that'd be a pretty remarkable bump in production. With those numbers, he's not only an All-Star, but likely one of the top two or three CF in the game.

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    Re: who's your pick to click this season?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    If you believe Friedl will take the place of Wil Myers or take most of Nick Senzel's PAs, I've got some bad news for you...

    I mean, if TJ Friedl starts hitting the ball like Kingspoint insists he can (13 triples and 25 doubles) while also stealing 30+ bases, he might. But that'd be a pretty remarkable bump in production. With those numbers, he's not only an All-Star, but likely one of the top two or three CF in the game.
    His SLG has been better than advertised at the MLB level. If you believe his OBP will come around to the .360 he posted in the minors, you might have a borderline .800 OPS guy here. He’s managed to be league average as a hitter to this point without the benefit of consistent playing time. He hits lefties well. His glove is highly regarded by scouts. Maybe he’s Chris Heisey 2.0, but I think he should certainly get a legitimate chance to win a starting OF job this year.

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    Re: who's your pick to click this season?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    13 triples would likely lead the league. The last time anyone had more than 13 triples was Charlie Blackmon in 2017. He led the league with 725 PAs that season.

    The last time anyone had 13 or more triples, 25+ doubles, and 30+ stolen bases in one season was Jose Reyes in 2011. That was enough to make him the 11th place finisher in the MVP race. He had 586 PAs that season.

    The last time anyone had 13+ triples, 25+ doubles, and 30+ stolen bases in under 500 PAs was... a long time ago. I stopped looking after 1990.
    Idk about those numbers exactly but I could see the stolen bases and triples going up due to pickoff rules, shift rules, and bigger bases

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    Re: who's your pick to click this season?

    FRaley, Friedl, Benson, Myers and Votto should man 1B, the 3 OF spots and DH against RHP most of the time IMO. They'll float through DH for rest, but I think those guys should be the starters. Nick Senzel is the unfortunate fly in the ointment who doesn't even deserve a spot on the roster let alone the line-up, but he'll probably play a lot if he's ever healthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    Idk about those numbers exactly but I could see the stolen bases and triples going up due to pickoff rules, shift rules, and bigger bases
    Up? Maybe. Sure.

    13 triples is nuts.
    25 doubles is equally nuts.
    30+ stolen bases are also nuts.

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    Re: who's your pick to click this season?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    Up? Maybe. Sure.

    13 triples is nuts.
    25 doubles is equally nuts.
    30+ stolen bases are also nuts.
    13 triples is nuts

    If he gets 400-500 PA’s, I think 20+ SB is in the realm of the possible. 30 might be a stretch, but not a major one. Ditto got 25 doubles. It’s not “nuts.” Perhaps “unlikely” would be a better word.

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    Re: who's your pick to click this season?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    Up? Maybe. Sure.

    13 triples is nuts.
    25 doubles is equally nuts.
    30+ stolen bases are also nuts.
    13 triples is the only one that seems like truly implausible to me.

    25 doubles on its own isn’t that rare is it? And 30 SB hasn’t been in the past either. Depending on how big the effect is with the rule changes, wouldn’t seem all that impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsfan9988 View Post
    13 triples is nuts

    If he gets 400-500 PA’s, I think 20+ SB is in the realm of the possible. 30 might be a stretch, but not a major one. Ditto got 25 doubles. It’s not “nuts.” Perhaps “unlikely” would be a better word.
    Yeah triples aside, not that crazy if you think a guy really is a breakout candidate
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    Re: who's your pick to click this season?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    Up? Maybe. Sure.

    13 triples is nuts.
    25 doubles is equally nuts.
    30+ stolen bases are also nuts.
    He had 10 doubles in 72 games/258 PA last year. 25 is definitely doable.
    What would you say.....ya do here?

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    Re: who's your pick to click this season?

    I'd like to take this opportunity to welcome Friedl's mom to the board.

    As for my pick? I'll go way off the grid and into the weeds. Hector Ramos.

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    Re: who's your pick to click this season?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    Up? Maybe. Sure.

    13 triples is nuts.
    25 doubles is equally nuts.
    30+ stolen bases are also nuts.
    From 1894 to 1931 72 players 27 and older did it.

    From 1932-1968 Only Lou Brock did it (1968)

    Here are the 13 guys 27 and older to do it in the expansion era

    Code:
    Player			        Season	Age	PA
    José Reyes			2011	28	586
    Carl Crawford			2010	28	663
    Jimmy Rollins			2007	28	778
    Juan Pierre			2006	28	750
    José Offerman			1998	29	709
    Delino DeShields		1997	28	643
    Chuck Knoblauch			1996	27	701
    Lance Johnson			1996	32	724
    Steve Finley			1992	27	686
    Tony Gwynn			1987	27	680
    Mitch Webster			1986	27	645
    Brett Butler			1985	28	666
    Willie Wilson			1985	29	642
    César Tovar			1970	29	726
    Now factor in that GAB doesn't have a lot of doubles to give up and Friedle won't hit the dish as much as the fellers above.

    I'll take the under for 1 million dollars

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    Re: who's your pick to click this season?

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    From 1894 to 1931 72 players 27 and older did it.

    From 1932-1968 Only Lou Brock did it (1968)

    Here are the 13 guys 27 and older to do it in the expansion era

    Code:
    Player			        Season	Age	PA
    José Reyes			2011	28	586
    Carl Crawford			2010	28	663
    Jimmy Rollins			2007	28	778
    Juan Pierre			2006	28	750
    José Offerman			1998	29	709
    Delino DeShields		1997	28	643
    Chuck Knoblauch			1996	27	701
    Lance Johnson			1996	32	724
    Steve Finley			1992	27	686
    Tony Gwynn			1987	27	680
    Mitch Webster			1986	27	645
    Brett Butler			1985	28	666
    Willie Wilson			1985	29	642
    César Tovar			1970	29	726
    I think Friedl's a fine player, but expecting him to do something no one has done since at least 1931 seems like you're setting him up as a disappointment.

    Also, hi, Ms. Friedl.

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    Re: who's your pick to click this season?

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    From 1894 to 1931 72 players 27 and older did it.

    From 1932-1968 Only Lou Brock did it (1968)

    Here are the 13 guys 27 and older to do it in the expansion era

    Code:
    Player			        Season	Age	PA
    José Reyes			2011	28	586
    Carl Crawford			2010	28	663
    Jimmy Rollins			2007	28	778
    Juan Pierre			2006	28	750
    José Offerman			1998	29	709
    Delino DeShields		1997	28	643
    Chuck Knoblauch			1996	27	701
    Lance Johnson			1996	32	724
    Steve Finley			1992	27	686
    Tony Gwynn			1987	27	680
    Mitch Webster			1986	27	645
    Brett Butler			1985	28	666
    Willie Wilson			1985	29	642
    César Tovar			1970	29	726
    Now factor in that GAB doesn't have a lot of doubles to give up and Friedle won't hit the dish as much as the fellers above.

    I'll take the under for 1 million dollars
    Vada Pinson was close 3 times: 1960, 12/37/32 (triples, doubles, steals); 1963: 14/37/27; 1967: 13/28/26

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    Re: who's your pick to click this season?

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    Vada Pinson was close 3 times: 1960, 12/37/32 (triples, doubles, steals); 1963: 14/37/27; 1967: 13/28/26
    Here are the Reds who have done (any age)

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    Dusty Miller		1895	26
    John Reilly		1888	29
    John Reilly		1887	28

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