What will it take for Reds fans to forgive the Castellinis?

[kaldaniels]

As far as a hypothetical sale would go - how would that be voted on by the current shareholders (and the controlling share)?

Ex. The majority of shareholders agree to cash out and sell, but Jeff Wyler dissents - would it just be the controlling share that decides his fate, a majority of shares, or other?

And this doesn’t have to be a sale to someone who wants to move, just a new owner who wants the whole kit and kaboodle.

[westofyou]

As far as a hypothetical sale would go - how would that be voted on by the current shareholders (and the controlling share)?

Ex. The majority of shareholders agree to cash out and sell, but Jeff Wyler dissents - would it just be the controlling share that decides his fate, a majority of shares, or other?

And this doesn’t have to be a sale to someone who wants to move, just a new owner who wants the whole kit and kaboodle.

A lot of the smaller investors stay in the ownership group through the sales. I'm certain there were owners who spanned the 80's to 2000's

[Kinsm]

As far as a hypothetical sale would go - how would that be voted on by the current shareholders (and the controlling share)?

Ex. The majority of shareholders agree to cash out and sell, but Jeff Wyler dissents - would it just be the controlling share that decides his fate, a majority of shares, or other?

And this doesn’t have to be a sale to someone who wants to move, just a new owner who wants the whole kit and kaboodle.

He’d retain his non-voting share, the controllable share could still be sold. For each minority owner who stays it would depress the total sale amount by x dollars.

The Reds have had a lot of minority owners throughout my entire life, yet have been sold numerous times.

[Bob Sheed]

What was that show? Black Mirror, I think?

Where the Prime Minister was a real p.o.s. and he was forced to have sex with a sheep on live tv.

If Phil goes that extra mile, that would be a good start to the healing process.

[westofyou]

What was that show? Black Mirror, I think?

Where the Prime Minister was a real p.o.s. and he was forced to have sex with a sheep on live tv.

Too much?

It would make a hell of a bobblehead

[RedTeamGo!]

What was that show? Black Mirror, I think?

Where the Prime Minister was a real p.o.s. and he was forced to have sex with a sheep on live tv.

If Phil goes that extra mile, that would be a good start to the healing process.

I think it was a pig

[Bob Sheed]

I think it was a pig

That would work. If Phil does another groundbreaking presentation for the Rosie Reds, but this time, instead of a tone deaf insulting PowerPoint, Phil would fornicate with a pig.

Let the healing begin.

[kaldaniels]

That would work. If Phil does another groundbreaking presentation for the Rosie Reds, but this time, instead of a tone deaf insulting PowerPoint, Phil would fornicate with a pig.

Let the healing begin.

I stated early in this thread I’m not going to forgive them but this would change my tune.

[Kinsm]

That would work. If Phil does another groundbreaking presentation for the Rosie Reds, but this time, instead of a tone deaf insulting PowerPoint, Phil would fornicate with a pig.

Let the healing begin.

In the show the POL does the pig, most Reds fans would probably want the reverse.

[Bob Sheed]

dp

[SidneySlicker]

People can wish and dream all they want. The Castellini's aren't selling. You're wasting your time and energy. Sure, Bob has proven an incompetent owner, and Phil is a pompous jerk. It would be easy to spite the team due to it's ownership, especially Phil. I'd encourage everyone to look at it from a perspective of us fans deserve a winner rather than the Castellini's. Better to drop the spite and just hope they figure out how to run a small market team successfully. Tom Benson was the worst NFL owner for years and years, until they figured it out and got it right. I think some are being purposely obtuse in looking past some of the young talented players and bright spots of this organization out of spite. I'm not going to tell anyone how to fan, but don't tell me there aren't things about the future of the Reds to be extremely excited about.

[Sea Ray]

People can wish and dream all they want. The Castellini's aren't selling. You're wasting your time and energy. Sure, Bob has proven an incompetent owner, and Phil is a pompous jerk. It would be easy to spite the team due to it's ownership, especially Phil. I'd encourage everyone to look at it from a perspective of us fans deserve a winner rather than the Castellini's. Better to drop the spite and just hope they figure out how to run a small market team successfully. Tom Benson was the worst NFL owner for years and years, until they figured it out and got it right. I think some are being purposely obtuse in looking past some of the young talented players and bright spots of this organization out of spite. I'm not going to tell anyone how to fan, but don't tell me there aren't things about the future of the Reds to be extremely excited about.

The Castellinis are only part of the problem. The bigger part is the economic disparities in MLB. Look at our history here in Cincinnati. Another owner will not start spending like the SD Padres. Oh course management could be better and we could improve our face of the franchise (Phil C) but we're still going to have a sub $150Mill payroll.

[SidneySlicker]

The Castellinis are only part of the problem. The bigger part is the economic disparities in MLB. Look at our history here in Cincinnati. Another owner will not start spending like the SD Padres. Oh course management could be better and we could improve our face of the franchise (Phil C) but we're still going to have a sub $150Mill payroll.

I agree, it's why I've been pining for years for this Reds organization to follow the Indians/Guardians blueprint of winning. The Reds would go halfway and then reverse course and it resulted in the worst possible result. Constant rebuilding, rather than constant reloading. I think they've started to figure out the blueprint, now hopefully they can continue to execute.

[Ron Madden]

The Castellinis are only part of the problem. The bigger part is the economic disparities in MLB. Look at our history here in Cincinnati. Another owner will not start spending like the SD Padres. Oh course management could be better and we could improve our face of the franchise (Phil C) but we're still going to have a sub $150Mill payroll.

Mr. Castellini,

Nobody is asking you to spend like the Padres, Mets, Yankees or Dodgers.

All we want is for you to stop pocketing every nickel you can get your greedy hands on.

[Bob Sheed]

Mr. Castellini,

Nobody is asking you to spend like the Padres, Mets, Yankees or Dodgers.

All we want is for you to stop pocketing every nickel you can get your greedy hands on.

Exactly. There's two issues here.

Issue 1 is the economic disparity between teams.

Issue 2 is that Reds ownership is using issue 1 as an excuse to not even try, and instead just milk the organization and fan base.

Issue 2 is the bigger problem, as a Reds fan.