Encarnacion-Strand bids to land a roster spot

[MoneyInTheBank]

I think the TV Deal situation means the Reds will be dumping players sooner rather than later. I could see several guys up by Memorial Day with guys making even a little more than minimum shipped off by Memorial Day. Myers, Newman, Sims and Senzel would be the first on the list and possibly one of Casali or Maile (with somebody like Chuckie called up). I even wonder if some of the non-roster guys may be released before the season simply because they'll make more than the minimum if added to the roster. Guys like Pinder and Strickland might be examples.

Not sure if that will effect CES, but I could see middle of the diamond types added EDLC, McClain, Siani to backfill.

I would agree if they hadn't already stripped the payroll

[mth123]

I would agree if they hadn't already stripped the payroll

They can strip it more for more lost revenue. Myers, Newman and Sim would cut $12 Million. They could save another couple Million by Dealing Casali to a team with a need and replacing him with Chuckie or Romine. Losing $60 Million in revenue will require actions to mitigate the damage IMO. They'll recoup some from ad money, but not all of it. That's where I think some early trades of some of these guys will happen.

Honestly, I'd rather they do it now than give us the story this winter that additions won't be possible because of the TV situation this year. They aren't going to need Newman or Myers when its time to contend, but they are going to need to sign a free agent starting pitcher or two or any thoughts of contention are a pipedream. I don't want this winter to be a time for further cuts because the Reds lost the TV deal. Do it now.

[757690]

They can strip it more for more lost revenue. Myers, Newman and Sim would cut $12 Million. They could save another couple Million by Dealing Casali to a team with a need and replacing him with Chuckie or Romine. Losing $60 Million in revenue will require actions to mitigate the damage IMO. They'll recoup some from ad money, but not all of it. That's where I think some early trades of some of these guys will happen.

Honestly, I'd rather they do it now than give us the story this winter that additions won't be possible because of the TV situation this year. They aren't going to need Newman or Myers when its time to contend, but they are going to need to sign a free agent starting pitcher or two or any thoughts of contention are a pipedream. I don't want this winter to be a time for further cuts because the Reds lost the TV deal. Do it now.

Everyone knew this was coming for awhile. The Reds added all the players you listed to cut knowing that this was likely going to happen.

It seems that this is the reason the Reds used for the cut from $114M down to $80M

[MoneyInTheBank]

They can strip it more for more lost revenue. Myers, Newman and Sim would cut $12 Million. They could save another couple Million by Dealing Casali to a team with a need and replacing him with Chuckie or Romine. Losing $60 Million in revenue will require actions to mitigate the damage IMO. They'll recoup some from ad money, but not all of it. That's where I think some early trades of some of these guys will happen.

Honestly, I'd rather they do it now than give us the story this winter that additions won't be possible because of the TV situation this year. They aren't going to need Newman or Myers when its time to contend, but they are going to need to sign a free agent starting pitcher or two or any thoughts of contention are a pipedream. I don't want this winter to be a time for further cuts because the Reds lost the TV deal. Do it now.

You seem to be conflating what you WANT them to do and predicting what they WILL do. If you want them to dump players now, that's fine. I disagree that they will

[mth123]

You seem to be conflating what you WANT them to do and predicting what they WILL do. If you want them to dump players now, that's fine. I disagree that they will

I think when the dust settles and they don't get their payment from Bally for $60 Million (52% they keep) they'll be scrambling. If that's the case, I want them to dump now rather than have this require further cuts after the season and affect 2024. I also think ownership will want to. They haven't been shy about using any excuse to make cuts.

If they don't do it now, I think they certainly will do it next year. I'm hoping this is the last year we have so much dreck on the pitching staff. They have 3 starters and maybe 2 decent relievers (one of whom will probably be the 5th starter). Get some starters and earmark some of the better kids for the pen. I don't see that happening this winter if this revenue loss actually occurs. Heck, its what they should have done this year instead of spending it on guys like Myers and Newman.

[MoneyInTheBank]

I think when the dust settles and they don't get their payment from Bally for $60 Million (52% they keep) they'll be scrambling. If that's the case, I want them to dump now rather than have this require further cuts after the season and affect 2024. I also think ownership will want to. They haven't been shy about using any excuse to make cuts.

If they don't do it now, I think they certainly will do it next year. I'm hoping this is the last year we have so much dreck on the pitching staff. They have 3 starters and maybe 2 decent relievers (one of whom will probably be the 5th starter). Get some starters and earmark some of the better kids for the pen. I don't see that happening this winter if this revenue loss actually occurs. Heck, its what they should have done this year instead of spending it on guys like Myers and Newman.

I really just disagree on all counts. Moose comes off the books. Votto comes off the books (minus the buyout). That's ~$35M. They had already cut the payroll $40M.

They are already trading Myers at the deadline. Sims and Newman could go too. So you're really only saving $6M (half their 2023 salary). If that $6M is holding them back, SELL THE DAGGONE TEAM ALREADY

[westofyou]

They can afford the costs now, that's why they set the budget where it is

They are not depending on that Bally money to run the team

[Kingspoint]

And, they'll probably receive close to $100M from revenue sharing.