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    Re: Reds Transactions 2023 Season

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/...en-lively.html

    The Reds didn't have to outright him to AAA. They could have waived him and left it at that
    He does not get the opportunity to elect free agency, he WILL BE a free agent per the collectively bargained contract rights.


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    Re: Reds Transactions 2023 Season

    Quote Originally Posted by Kinsm View Post
    He does not get the opportunity to elect free agency, he WILL BE a free agent per the collectively bargained contract rights.
    So MLBtraderumors is wrong?

    I don't get how a free agent can be outrighted

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    Re: Reds Transactions 2023 Season

    Their wording is being misconstrued by you, yes.

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    Re: Reds Transactions 2023 Season

    Quote Originally Posted by Kinsm View Post
    Their wording is being misconstrued by you, yes.
    I understand you want to make it personal and argue with me but here's the scoop in regards to this website:

    ...he will have the opportunity to elect minor league free agency following the conclusion of the World Series.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinsm View Post
    He does not get the opportunity to elect free agency, he WILL BE a free agent per the collectively bargained contract rights.
    It appears that you are contradicting directly what Mlbtraderumors stated

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    Re: Reds Transactions 2023 Season

    Imagine thinking you're being personally attacked when someone explains to you how they think you're wrong.
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    Re: Reds Transactions 2023 Season

    For anyone who isn’t just trolling because they’re bored with their life and doesn’t wish to argue semantics and wording from a sports site and would rather read the rules directly from the book….

    https://registration.mlbpa.org/pdf/majorleaguerules.pdf

    An unsigned minor league player is automatically declared a free-agent at 5 PM (Eastern) on the 5th day after the final game of the World Series (the deadline is 5 PM Eastern on October 15th if the World Series is canceled) if the player has spent all or any part of at least seven separate seasons on a minor league roster (including all or parts of any season spent on Optional Assignment to the minors and/or on a minor league Injured List) and/or if the player has been previously released or non-tendered in his career and his present contract (known as a "second contract" even if it's his third or fourth minor league contract) has expired. For purposes of determining eligibility to be a minor league free-agent where spending seven separate seasons on a minor league roster is required, a player does not accrue a minor league season if the player spends the entire season on an MLB Active List, MLB injured list(s), and/or other MLB inactive list, or if the player spends an entire season on the Restricted List, Disqualified List, Suspended List, Ineligible List, Voluntarily Retired List, and/or Military List. Also, participation in a post-season instructional league or winter league and/or the Arizona Fall League (AFL) does not count toward a minor league season if the player otherwise did not accrue a minor league season that year. Note that a player who ordinarily would have been declared a Rule 9 minor league free-agent is NOT eligible to be a free-agent if the player is either added to an MLB Reserve List (40-man roster) or agrees to a minor league successor contract prior to 5 PM (Eastern) on the 5th day after the final game of the World Series.

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    Re: Reds Transactions 2023 Season

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    Imagine thinking you're being personally attacked when someone explains to you how they think you're wrong.
    Nothing personal, it's just that his wording is in direct contrast to what was stated on MLBtraderumors. That's all

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    Re: Reds Transactions 2023 Season

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    So MLBtraderumors is wrong?

    I don't get how a free agent can be outrighted
    Because he isn't a FA until after the World Series is over. The Reds outrighted him to maintain control until then in hopes they can get him to agree to a minor league deal.
    All my posts are my opinion - just like yours are. If I forget to state it and you're too dense to see the obvious, look here!

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    Re: Reds Transactions 2023 Season

    The Reds 40 man roster, including 60-day IL guys, was at 41.

    So they needed to get a player off before the 60-day guys are reinstated.

    They chose to take care of that with Lively.

    Nothing to add as to the mechanism used to accomplish that.
    Last edited by Kc61; 10-23-2023 at 03:46 PM.

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    Re: Reds Transactions 2023 Season

    Just wanted to add that all options must be declared within 5 days after the World Series ends.
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    Re: Reds Transactions 2023 Season

    Per Charlie Goodsmith:

    The Reds claimed outfielder Bubba Thompson off waivers from the Royals.

    He's a 25-year-old right-handed hitter who was a first-round pick in 2017. He hit .170 in 53 big league at-bats last year.

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    Re: Reds Transactions 2023 Season

    Been 70 years since the last Reds Bubba


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    Re: Reds Transactions 2023 Season

    Quote Originally Posted by UKFlounder View Post
    Per Charlie Goodsmith:

    The Reds claimed outfielder Bubba Thompson off waivers from the Royals.

    He's a 25-year-old right-handed hitter who was a first-round pick in 2017. He hit .170 in 53 big league at-bats last year.
    One of those “tools” players who has all the tools, except the most important one, the Hit tool.
    Hoping to change my username to 75769024

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    Re: Reds Transactions 2023 Season

    I see Bubba was a first round draft pick.
    Those guys get opportunity after opportunity that other players never seem to get.
    sorry we're boring

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    Re: Reds Transactions 2023 Season

    I like adding Bubba to the org. Seems like a naturally talented player whose development might have been stunted with no 2020 season, worth at least taking a look at.

    As a side note he is exactly one week older than Will Benson. Perhaps lightning can strike twice...
    I dont care, Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. Hes in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.

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