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    2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part II: Post Draft Edition

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    I think B+ for the draft. Filled a lot of holes for players that are going to be too expensive to bring back. The defense is younger and the players brought in fit the high character team captain mold that the Bengals have went after since Taylor became coach.

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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part II: Post Draft Edition

    Seemed like a very safe, almost “paint-by-numbers” approach with no great risks and a bunch of guys who may start and/or have major roles in two years.

    They generally went BPA and did not reach for need (except for perhaps the punter), taking highly ranked guys most of whom had high raw athletic scores.

    I wish they had not taken 2 WRs, but I can see how the Princeton guy was too good of an athlete.

    The 2 WRs plus 3 DBs kind of limited what they could do elsewhere, but each looks like a good pick individually at that point in time.

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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part II: Post Draft Edition

    I didn't see any of the draft live today, but read the ticker across the bottom on TV when I got home. A commercial made it so that I missed who the Bengals took in the 5th, but I assumed that it was a RB and it was. It almost looks like they even traded up to get him. I have a feeling that they targeted him and are very intrigued by him. He also may be 4th in the pecking order and has to pass several players before he moves up and gets playing time. First things first. He must be able to pass-protect before he takes a snap in the NFL. That will come in practice.
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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part II: Post Draft Edition

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    I didn't see any of the draft live today, but read the ticker across the bottom on TV when I got home. A commercial made it so that I missed who the Bengals took in the 5th, but I assumed that it was a RB and it was. It almost looks like they even traded up to get him. I have a feeling that they targeted him and are very intrigued by him. He also may be 4th in the pecking order and has to pass several players before he moves up and gets playing time. First things first. He must be able to pass-protect before he takes a snap in the NFL. That will come in practice.

    I think McShay said something like the Bengals got themselves a helluva pass protector in Brown. Dude was in tears when he got the word he was a Bengal. I look for him to make an impact sooner than later.
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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part II: Post Draft Edition

    Great draft. I don't think it needs overcomplicating - they have to get more cost efficient on defense. They truly have enough depth all over the roster to survive injuries.

    In the regular season I think they can survive injuries to anyone save for Burrow and in the postseason now I think they can survive anything save for injuries really decimating an entire position group. They are loaded absolutely everywhere. The secondary has to be one of the fastest in the NFL now and now they might still have a pass rush when Hendrickson has to come out. Special teams also just went from deficient to a plus unit.

    I love that they aren't taking luxuries like a TE that'll get 40 catches a year or an early RB. Those are flashy and fun but I'm more worried about season killing scenarios like going down a couple of corners in January or Hendrickson going down and not being able to rush the passer at all. You can't have that in a league with Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, Lamar, Lawrence and on and on.
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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part II: Post Draft Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfaithful View Post
    Great draft. I don't think it needs overcomplicating - they have to get more cost efficient on defense. They truly have enough depth all over the roster to survive injuries.

    In the regular season I think they can survive injuries to anyone save for Burrow and in the postseason now I think they can survive anything save for injuries really decimating an entire position group. They are loaded absolutely everywhere. The secondary has to be one of the fastest in the NFL now and now they might still have a pass rush when Hendrickson has to come out. Special teams also just went from deficient to a plus unit.

    I love that they aren't taking luxuries like a TE that'll get 40 catches a year or an early RB. Those are flashy and fun but I'm more worried about season killing scenarios like going down a couple of corners in January or Hendrickson going down and not being able to rush the passer at all. You can't have that in a league with Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, Lamar, Lawrence and on and on.
    They're still not covered for injuries like they had on the O line last year but you can only have so much depth in the NFL given the 53 man roster and salary cap

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    They're still not covered for injuries like they had on the O line last year but you can only have so much depth in the NFL given the 53 man roster and salary cap
    Speaking of that. With player safety being paramount, it’s very surprising that that they haven’t raised the 53 man rosters.
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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part II: Post Draft Edition

    Disagree actually, they're much deeper on the oline now. We know Jackson Carmen is capable of looking like an NFL tackle & Collins should be late season depth. It's enough depth that I'm not sure Adeniji makes it through the season.
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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part II: Post Draft Edition

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    Disagree actually, they're much deeper on the oline now. We know Jackson Carmen is capable of looking like an NFL tackle & Collins should be late season depth. It's enough depth that I'm not sure Adeniji makes it through the season.
    It’s definitely better, but that’s assuming Jonah Williams plays for the Bengals and Collins doesn’t have any setups and can contribute positively late in the season. If Jonah leaves, RT could still be a mess since Carmen is still a big question mark on the right side. Granted, he looked incredible last year in the playoffs at LT, but for some reason, he’s struggled mightily on the right side. But, maybe he’s figured that side out too?? I hope so.
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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part II: Post Draft Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfaithful View Post
    Disagree actually, they're much deeper on the oline now. We know Jackson Carmen is capable of looking like an NFL tackle & Collins should be late season depth. It's enough depth that I'm not sure Adeniji makes it through the season.
    Strange comment you're making that they're deeper now and then you mention two players that they had last year. If you're counting on those players to do more than last year, that's great but they are still the same guys. I'm not convinced Carman can do anything at RT and I'm not sure what he can give us at LT. He did give us a really good game at Buffalo and kudos to him for that

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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part II: Post Draft Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    Strange comment you're making that they're deeper now and then you mention two players that they had last year. If you're counting on those players to do more than last year, that's great but they are still the same guys. I'm not convinced Carman can do anything at RT and I'm not sure what he can give us at LT. He did give us a really good game at Buffalo and kudos to him for that
    Collins was a starter last year, now he's depth thanks to the Brown signing and Jonah moving. Collins is saying in interviews he thinks he'd be able to play now so I think it's fair to say he'll be ready by late season. That's a big upgrade from what they had to go with when he got injured last year. The Brown signing was genius because it upgraded both tackle positions + depth.

    Carman looked like a bust going into last season, now we know he's useful depth also.

    Jonah Williams will play, it's so obvious I don't even see the point in discussing it.

    Cody Ford probably has more upside than previous depth as well, but that's pretty speculative so I didn't go there.
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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part II: Post Draft Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfaithful View Post
    Collins was a starter last year, now he's depth thanks to the Brown signing and Jonah moving. Collins is saying in interviews he thinks he'd be able to play now so I think it's fair to say he'll be ready by late season. That's a big upgrade from what they had to go with when he got injured last year. The Brown signing was genius because it upgraded both tackle positions + depth.

    Carman looked like a bust going into last season, now we know he's useful depth also.

    Jonah Williams will play, it's so obvious I don't even see the point in discussing it.

    Cody Ford probably has more upside than previous depth as well, but that's pretty speculative so I didn't go there.
    It's far too early to state that the Brown signing improved two positions. We have no idea how Jonah Williams will look at RT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    It's far too early to state that the Brown signing improved two positions. We have no idea how Jonah Williams will look at RT
    I feel confident in stating he's going to be better than Adeniji or Carmen and those were the choices at RT until Collins comes back. You can be more cautious if you like, I have no problem going out on that limb.
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    Bengals secondary is unreal now all that speed...

    If Murphy and Ossai can give them a push on the rush the defense will be top 5 in the AFC
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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part II: Post Draft Edition

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    Bengals secondary is unreal now all that speed...

    If Murphy and Ossai can give them a push on the rush the defense will be top 5 in the AFC
    If the D can reach top 5 status, to go along with what certainly should be top 5 offense and now possibly a top 10 special teams... look out!!!
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