They’ll re-sign Votto and get a Mike Minor. Payroll will look similar to this year’s. Around 80 million.
They’ll re-sign Votto and get a Mike Minor. Payroll will look similar to this year’s. Around 80 million.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
If it’s going to be $80 they’ll be doing way more than just Votto and a $10 million pitcher. That gets them to $60.Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
Reds pulled in the most fans since 2015, just over 2 million.
Probably through raises and incidental $2 million bench guys it’ll get up around 80. And the Mike Minors of the world are raking $15 million a season nowadays.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
Raises are already accounted for in the base number of $30 million. That includes the arbitration guys. Everyone else (except Hunter) will be league minimum.
Chip R (09-27-2023)
Needs: TOR starter, an OF/DH power bat, additions in the pen
Most likely to happen: a few marginal pieces chosen for $$$ consideration that don’t really move the needle much
Hope I’m wrong.
REDREAD (09-24-2023)
I also imagine they’ll try to lock up another kid to a team-friendly deal.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
Green, in his first year of his deal, made a total of 1.3 million (if you include his signing bonus). So not quite twice the minimum. Just not going to move the needle on the 2024 payroll much.
Well, then maybe they get a reliever or bat. I just think it’s unlikely they’ll go much cheaper than this year. I think that would likely hurt season ticket sales.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
mth123 (09-24-2023),Revering4Blue (09-24-2023)
I selected 101-125. I won’t say how I arrived at that guess so as to avoid being told exactly how I’m wrong.
REDREAD (09-24-2023)
I think the entire reason for the rebuild was to take as much profit as they can for the foreseeable future, which means not replacing the money that they at least spent on Moose. That puts them at around $70 million at most. They’ll really try to sell the fans on coming out to see the kids play and get better. At $70 they’ll be able to afford a TOR and some bullpen help.
REDREAD (09-24-2023)
You could be right. I sort of feel like the payroll figure is a statement at this point, after Phil’s foot in mouth performance.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
Revering4Blue (09-24-2023)
Lots of votes for $76MM+.
This would mean the Reds adding ~$40MM in payroll from outside the organization this winter.
Two questions:
1. What pending free agents/trade targets make sense for the Reds?
2. What about the strategy of the FO since the work stoppage makes you believe they significantly add to their obligations this off-season?
I’ll answer #2.
Krall has specifically said that the increased attendance gives them more money to spend. That was at the deadline, and about this year’s payroll, so we can’t assume that will carryover to next year’s payroll. But it is a reason to believe that they will base next season’s payroll on this year’s attendance and attendance rose this year, significantly.
But for me, the biggest reason to believe that the Reds will change their spending philosophy next season, is that Phil has been silent, and Bob has been doing all the talking, after the infamous Rosie Red luncheon. Bob as always been sensitive to fan criticism, and I think all the “sell the team, Bob” talk worked.
Hoping to change my username to 75769024
Don’t get me wrong - I’m rooting for your side here. It’s just that if Reds 2024 payroll approaches their 2023 payroll, it will mean they’ll have to be among the most active teams in MLB free agency this winter. I’m just having a difficult time picturing that.
Are we thinking Montgomery? Nola? Hader? Snell?
How can the Reds outbid the market on enough long-term deals that they’ll end up adding $40MM to the 2024 payroll? They’re not going to sign anyone to a six-figure deal. It’s going to take four or five mediocre veterans on short-term deals to reach the threshold everyone is voting for.
LeatherPants (09-25-2023)
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