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    Quote Originally Posted by KoryMac5 View Post
    Dehner has a nice article in the Athletic about the offense and the early struggles...

    Complex issue without 1 direct cause...
    Dropped passes (more than double what they had this time last year)
    Dumb penalties (Mixon, Boyd false starts)
    Run game (25% efficiency rating)
    Burrow health (Callahan said it was a cop out to use as an excuse but it does need to be acknowledged...Joe is not able to create on the run.)

    I think a lot of that gets fixed soon...but I do think having a training camp and preseason with the starters more involved may help work that out in the long run.
    I am not picking on Tee, but the Rams game may look completely different if he doesn't drop two balls. Those were two first down catches, one on a drive in which they were rolling.

    The false starts should get fixed, its not often you go from 3rd and 1 to 3rd and 11.


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    I wonder if the Hamlin MNF game impacted Tee to some extent on the same setting and stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    I am not picking on Tee, but the Rams game may look completely different if he doesn't drop two balls. Those were two first down catches, one on a drive in which they were rolling.

    The false starts should get fixed, its not often you go from 3rd and 1 to 3rd and 11.
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    He had 5 negative plays.

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    I think the debilitating injury and lack of practice is probably a bigger factor in Burrow's poor start . Burrow was already set for life financially. This new contract is not a distraction


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    You speak from experience?

    I mean, seriously. How could you even imagine you would have any idea what kind of distraction it could be?
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    He had 5 negative plays.

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    You speak from experience?

    I mean, seriously. How could you even imagine you would have any idea what kind of distraction it could be?
    Sure it could be a distraction, but it hasn't been an issue for Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, etc. Nothing in Burrow's history would suggest he's a guy that's all about the money. On the other hand, we know he has a debilitating injury that most QBs wouldn't play with. I don't think it takes a genius to figure out which is more likely...


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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part III: De Ja Vu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hillsdale87 View Post
    Sure it could be a distraction, but it hasn't been an issue for Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, etc. Nothing in Burrow's history would suggest he's a guy that's all about the money. On the other hand, we know he has a debilitating injury that most QBs wouldn't play with. I don't think it takes a genius to figure out which is more likely...


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    So we're basically praising Burrow for setting his own house on fire and then trying to put it out?

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    How is his new contract. Which was expected to happen a distraction. If he didn’t have one and it turned into a Lemar Jackson situation. That would be a distraction. Playing devils advocate or being a contrarian for the sake of a debate. That’s all this is. He’s playing hurt and lack of reps going into the season for these players is affecting this team. Higgins knows he’s going to get paid. He didn’t drop passes because he’s not into it. Or he’s distracted by Joe’s contract.

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    Bengals fans turning on Burrow was not on my bingo card for this season. What in the world.

    I think fans of every team, outside of like 3, would trade for Burrow in a heartbeat.

    I do not think the Chiefs, Chargers, or Eagles would trade their QBs for Burrow, but everyone else would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Bengals fans turning on Burrow was not on my bingo card for this season. What in the world.

    I think fans of every team, outside of like 3, would trade for Burrow in a heartbeat.

    I do not think the Chiefs, Chargers, or Eagles would trade their QBs for Burrow, but everyone else would.
    He's the highest paid player in league history. He should be held to the highest standard. That's how these things work.

    No one is asking we get rid of him. We're just asking him to play like one of the best QBs in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    He's the highest paid player in league history. He should be held to the highest standard. That's how these things work.

    No one is asking we get rid of him. We're just asking him to play like one of the best QBs in the league.
    He is hurt.
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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part III: De Ja Vu?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Bengals fans turning on Burrow was not on my bingo card for this season. What in the world.

    I think fans of every team, outside of like 3, would trade for Burrow in a heartbeat.

    I do not think the Chiefs, Chargers, or Eagles would trade their QBs for Burrow, but everyone else would.
    Add the 'Fins to that list also. I think they are thrilled with Tua.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubc47834 View Post
    Add the 'Fins to that list also. I think they are thrilled with Tua.
    Yeah, but Tue is one or two more hits to his noggin from early retirement
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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part III: De Ja Vu?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Bengals fans turning on Burrow was not on my bingo card for this season. What in the world.

    I think fans of every team, outside of like 3, would trade for Burrow in a heartbeat.

    I do not think the Chiefs, Chargers, or Eagles would trade their QBs for Burrow, but everyone else would.
    Chiefs, Chargers, and probably the Bills. Although Allen has been up and down, I think he is an elite level QB when on. The Eagles are interesting because I don't know how sustainable Hurts is at that position. The unstoppable QB sneak will sooner or later be made illegal. Hurts derives a ton of value from his legs, something that doesn't exactly age well.

    I think the Dolphins will jump at the opportunity to upgrade from Tua. He is playing well in that system, I don't know if they really want to commit to him long term.

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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part III: De Ja Vu?

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Chiefs, Chargers, and probably the Bills. Although Allen has been up and down, I think he is an elite level QB when on. The Eagles are interesting because I don't know how sustainable Hurts is at that position. The unstoppable QB sneak will sooner or later be made illegal. Hurts derives a ton of value from his legs, something that doesn't exactly age well.

    I think the Dolphins will jump at the opportunity to upgrade from Tua. He is playing well in that system, I don't know if they really want to commit to him long term.
    I think Tua is going to be Lamar Jackson 2.0.

    It'll be a situation where the team isn't 100% committed moving forward but in the end they will pony up the money because the alternative (a rebuild) isn't much better.

    Miami is interesting though because how much of their success is based on Tua and how much is based on a system offense that teams will eventually catch up to? Reminds me of Mike Martz and the Rams in the 90s. Once teams made adjustments, Kurt Warner was done.

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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part III: De Ja Vu?

    Quote Originally Posted by dubc47834 View Post
    Add the 'Fins to that list also. I think they are thrilled with Tua.
    Up until McDaniels, Tua was on the verge of being a bust. And even with McDaniels, he still hasn't proven he can stay healthy. I'm not necessarily directing this at you, but I'm astonished at how the media and fans became such prisoners of the moment when giving their opinions on all things related to the NFL. We're still literally in September, but everyone has anointed the Dolphins the Super Bowl favorite, Joe Burrow is washed and the Browns as the team to beat in the AFC North.

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    Re: 2023 Cincinnati Bengals Part III: De Ja Vu?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Bengals fans turning on Burrow was not on my bingo card for this season. What in the world.

    I think fans of every team, outside of like 3, would trade for Burrow in a heartbeat.

    I do not think the Chiefs, Chargers, or Eagles would trade their QBs for Burrow, but everyone else would.
    Nah that is pretty well confined to one poster who has never had one positive thing to say about any player.
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