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    Something that I never knew until today...

    When NYC was first settled it was settled by the Dutch. It was called New Amsterdam. The rest of the colonists could not stand the Dutch, thinking that they were a little strange. Dutch men had basically one of two names - Keys (Cornelius) or Jan (John). The other colonists came up with a slur for the Dutch. They simply joined the two male Dutch names - Jan and Keys. Jankeys. Over time this morphed into Yankees. And there you go. New York Yankees.
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    Re: Something that I never knew until today...

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    When NYC was first settled in what settled by the Dutch. It was called New Amsterdam. The rest of the colonists could not stand the Dutch, thinking that they were a little strange. Dutch men had basically one of two names - Keys (Cornelius) or Jan (John). The other colonists came up with a slur for the Dutch. They simply joined the two male Dutch names - Jan and Keys. Jankeys. Over time this morphed into Yankees. And there you go. New York Yankees.
    Now that is a Yankee Doodle Dandy of a history lesson.

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    Re: Something that I never knew until today...

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    When NYC was first settled it was settled by the Dutch. It was called New Amsterdam. The rest of the colonists could not stand the Dutch, thinking that they were a little strange. Dutch men had basically one of two names - Keys (Cornelius) or Jan (John). The other colonists came up with a slur for the Dutch. They simply joined the two male Dutch names - Jan and Keys. Jankeys. Over time this morphed into Yankees. And there you go. New York Yankees.
    That’s not the story in NY. Jan-ke (Jan is comparable to John, and add an -ie for Johnnie) )is a common Dutch name which the a British picked up on and they thought it sounded “weak” so they used it pejoratively.

    And Yankee means a lot of things - as EB White said - To foreigners, a Yankee is an American. To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner. To Northerners, a Yankee is a New Englander. To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter. And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.

    Unless you really study colonial history, you can’t understand the culture and geopolitics of the original 13 colonies. It gets taught to kids with a lot more detail and seriousness in the NE than the rest of the country.
    There are so many people in the US who don’t know our history.

    And the Dutch name for Cornelius is Cornelis or Kees. I never heard of Keys.
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    Re: Something that I never knew until today...

    Quote Originally Posted by Betterread View Post
    That’s not the story in NY. Jan-ke (Jan is comparable to John, and add an -ie for Johnnie) )is a common Dutch name which the a British picked up on and they thought it sounded “weak” so they used it pejoratively.

    And Yankee means a lot of things - as EB White said - To foreigners, a Yankee is an American. To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner. To Northerners, a Yankee is a New Englander. To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter. And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.

    Unless you really study colonial history, you can’t understand the culture and geopolitics of the original 13 colonies. It gets taught to kids with a lot more detail and seriousness in the NE than the rest of the country.
    There are so many people in the US who don’t know our history.

    And the Dutch name for Cornelius is Cornelis or Kees. I never heard of Keys.
    My father grew up in Poughkeepsie, some of our relatives go back to those original Dutch and you're right they dive deeper in that background in the Hudson Valley than most places west of NY

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    Re: Something that I never knew until today...

    I love this thread.

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