2023 NCAA Football: PLAYOFF?!?!

[WVRed]

https://apnews.com/article/tennessee...1682a96c5d5a2f





If VA/TN DGs win this you can probably consider this the end of NCAA football.

Or the NCAA as a whole.

That said, if they lose, the NCAA could go Pony Express on Tennessee considering they are repeat offenders and don't have Jeremy Pruitt to fall back on.

Could you imagine the state of Texas suing the NCAA on SMUs behalf 40 years ago? Crazy times we live in.

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[Chip R]

At this point, I don't see why any program that's under investigation just doesn't tell the NCAA to pound sand and

[WVRed]

At this point, I don't see why any program that's under investigation just doesn't tell the NCAA to pound sand and

Tell that to Michigan.

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[GAC]

I'm siding with Tennessee and Virginia on this one. If you're saying a student-athlete can profit from "name, image, likeness", but don't lay out where the boundaries are, then what do you expect?

What "violations" is the NCAA saying the Vols are guilty of, other then this generalized "recruiting violations"?

It's sad; but the NCAA is becoming a joke.

[kaldaniels]

Money talks so I don’t think the lucrative sport of college “minor league” football is just going to disappear.

But in the year 2024 tying said football league to state-run (and private of course) institutions of higher learning is simply ridiculous.

Something’s gonna give but I don’t know what it is.

[RedTeamGo!]

Wow Hafley just left HC job at Boston College to be the DC for the Packers. Flat out said it was because of NIL. He’s sick of fundraising and re-recruiting his own players. He said there’s no time to coach football, and that’s what he wants to do. Just coach football.

With all the stuff going on kinda think college football is circling the drain. I know ratings are through the roof and stuff. But man.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Wow Hafley just left HC job at Boston College to be the DC for the Packers. Flat out said it was because of NIL. He’s sick of fundraising and re-recruiting his own players. He said there’s no time to coach football, and that’s what he wants to do. Just coach football.

With all the stuff going on kinda think college football is circling the drain. I know ratings are through the roof and stuff. But man.

I’m sure there is something to the NIL frustrations, but Hafley was on a awfully warm seat too.

[bucksfan2]

I’m sure there is something to the NIL frustrations, but Hafley was on a awfully warm seat too.

Saw a good post that Hafley was in a position where he was good enough to not get fired but not good enough to get a better job anytime soon.

People are going to make a big deal of Hafley moving from BC to a DC in the NFL, but I don't think its all that big of a deal.

I am sure a lot of coaches don't like NIL, and the NCAA needs to make a hard and sure rule with NIL.

[WVRed]

Saw a good post that Hafley was in a position where he was good enough to not get fired but not good enough to get a better job anytime soon.

People are going to make a big deal of Hafley moving from BC to a DC in the NFL, but I don't think its all that big of a deal.

I am sure a lot of coaches don't like NIL, and the NCAA needs to make a hard and sure rule with NIL.

There were two coaches at the FCS level who left their jobs to become defensive coordinators at Alabama under DeBoer. It's not the same but it kinda is because those schools best players are definitely getting poached.

I'd say Hafley just got out before he got fired next year. Curious to see who replaces him. Liam Coen has been mentioned which being from that area makes sense. I'd selfishly like to see Todd Monken just to see the Ravens coaching staff keep getting decimated.

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[bucksfan2]

There were two coaches at the FCS level who left their jobs to become defensive coordinators at Alabama under DeBoer. It's not the same but it kinda is because those schools best players are definitely getting poached.

I'd say Hafley just got out before he got fired next year. Curious to see who replaces him. Liam Coen has been mentioned which being from that area makes sense. I'd selfishly like to see Todd Monken just to see the Ravens coaching staff keep getting decimated.

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Deion took Sean Lewis form Kent State to be the Colorado OC when he was a hot name in the coaching ranks. OSU entertained the idea of Toledo's HC to be their OC. If you are a big time program, the Coordinators can make upwards of 2M per year, and are a pretty good spot to get a better job. I look at a coach like Joe Moorhead who was a pretty good OC at PSU and Oregon. He went from PSU to Mississippi St, which was a good move, but went from Oregon to Akron. According to google, he makes 620,000 as the HC of Akron. I think Bill O'Brein will be making 3-4 times that, and I think both are pretty comparable offensive minds.

Where does BC rank in the pecking order of Power 5 jobs? I would have to imagine pretty low, probably the bottom 10% or so. Its not a great recruiting ground, they aren't a historical power, they don't have a ton of fan support, and if you are constantly battling in the recruiting front (both in acceptance and retention) its a tough job.

[WVRed]

Deion took Sean Lewis form Kent State to be the Colorado OC when he was a hot name in the coaching ranks. OSU entertained the idea of Toledo's HC to be their OC. If you are a big time program, the Coordinators can make upwards of 2M per year, and are a pretty good spot to get a better job. I look at a coach like Joe Moorhead who was a pretty good OC at PSU and Oregon. He went from PSU to Mississippi St, which was a good move, but went from Oregon to Akron. According to google, he makes 620,000 as the HC of Akron. I think Bill O'Brein will be making 3-4 times that, and I think both are pretty comparable offensive minds.

Where does BC rank in the pecking order of Power 5 jobs? I would have to imagine pretty low, probably the bottom 10% or so. Its not a great recruiting ground, they aren't a historical power, they don't have a ton of fan support, and if you are constantly battling in the recruiting front (both in acceptance and retention) its a tough job.

I thought about Candle when I was typing my post but the idea with him was using OSU to springboard into a P5 head coaching job. Kane Wommack and Maurice Linguist could be doing that too but it could be getting out of the NIL mess.

BC is likely a stepping stone job. Always has been.


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[Roy Tucker]

Money talks so I don’t think the lucrative sport of college “minor league” football is just going to disappear.

But in the year 2024 tying said football league to state-run (and private of course) institutions of higher learning is simply ridiculous.

Something’s gonna give but I don’t know what it is.

I was going to write something like this but Kal beat me to it.

I realize the student part of student-athlete concept has been seriously eroded. But if you take the student part away, what tie to a university does an athlete have? Do NFL teams start having minor league teams at universities? Or maybe elsewhere at some separate entity?

But like someone said, there is too much money being made here by universities? They must realize they may be cutting their own throats.

[Slyder]

I was going to write something like this but Kal beat me to it.

I realize the student part of student-athlete concept has been seriously eroded. But if you take the student part away, what tie to a university does an athlete have? Do NFL teams start having minor league teams at universities? Or maybe elsewhere at some separate entity?

But like someone said, there is too much money being made here by universities? They must realize they may be cutting their own throats.

The schools don't care, they think the money is endless. Look at the joker(s) that killed the PAC because they thought the PAC was worth 50 million a year! They just want to cash the checks. At least now you can put away the façade that this is for the "good of the student" as the Swim team has to catch a flight at Reagan International Airport at 4:30 am on a Friday so they can compete at a B1G swim competition at USC on Saturday at 10 am and then fly back Sunday on a charter/red eye because some of the swimmers didn't race until 8 pm that night. Get back Sunday afternoon and get ready for class on Monday. It's absurd.

[Assembly Hall]

Alabama, Georgia, and Indiana?

https://twitter.com/SWiltfong247/sta...26896%3Fs%3D46

[Boston Red]

The schools don't care, they think the money is endless. Look at the joker(s) that killed the PAC because they thought the PAC was worth 50 million a year! They just want to cash the checks. At least now you can put away the façade that this is for the "good of the student" as the Swim team has to catch a flight at Reagan International Airport at 4:30 am on a Friday so they can compete at a B1G swim competition at USC on Saturday at 10 am and then fly back Sunday on a charter/red eye because some of the swimmers didn't race until 8 pm that night. Get back Sunday afternoon and get ready for class on Monday. It's absurd.

That example is pretty absurd, but it's not exactly new or exclusive to big money conferences. The bus rides Wichita State baseball was taking once or twice a year for 40 years in the Missouri Valley to Evansville and Terre Haute were far worse than what those Maryland swimmers you're talking about will have to face.