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    Re: 2024 Reds Injury Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    Heck I hope this is true and it’s not serious at all. In the Olden days it would be something you could pitch through or miss 1 start. Why not bring up Spiers then who’s pitched good in AAA. 40 man issue?

    I’m ready to trade Lodolo and outlined by bullet points in the who’s going to be traded thread. Might as well get an OF with some controllable years that has power.
    Moll should never have been sent down, he’s a good major league pitcher, Reds had to bring him back as soon as humanly possible.

    So they did so at the first opportunity. Martinez will get the starters innings. If Lodolo is a longer term issue, then probably Williamson will be back soon. Spiers has done well at AAA but he has no major league track record, he’ll be brought up if necessary.
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    Re: 2024 Reds Injury Updates

    Here's a good article on velocity (not so much on injuries) From 2022

    https://www.twinkietown.com/2022/12/...feller-johnson

    Velocity at the very top of the scale has become more commonplace, too. There were 214 fastballs clocked at 100 MPH or better in 2008. Last season, pitchers threw 3,367 such heaters.

    This is not a trend driven by a small handful of superhumans, either. Aroldis Chapman may have broken the modern mold, like Nolan Ryan, Bob Feller, and Walter Johnson did before, but in recent years more and more pitchers have followed that lead and shown capable of throwing very hard:

    The number of pitchers who threw at least one pitch measured 95 MPH or greater has increased by 75% since 2008 and the number of pitchers clocking 100+ MPH has more than tripled in the same span.

    Last season, 64 different hurlers crossed the century mark, led by the Twins’ Jhoan Duran’s 391 triple-digit four-seamers. Duran also led baseball in average fastball velocity at 100.8 MPH and was one of just two pitchers (Seattle’s Andrés Muńoz 100.2) to average better than 100.

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    Re: 2024 Reds Injury Updates

    I’d be interested to see arm injury rates of US players vs Latino. The year round training and programming of kids here can’t be great for long term arm health.


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    Re: 2024 Reds Injury Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    I’d be interested to see arm injury rates of US players vs Latino. The year round training and programming of kids here can’t be great for long term arm health.


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    That would be interesting to see. I think it’s several factors and kids playing year round before there bodies are fully developed, is very possibly one of those factors


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    Re: 2024 Reds Injury Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    I’d be interested to see arm injury rates of US players vs Latino. The year round training and programming of kids here can’t be great for long term arm health.


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    My pet theory is that inside of the "year around play" concept is the fact that we have given advanced training methods far further down into the youth game than it ever used to go. 8+ year olds are taught proper pitching mechanics to ostensibly help their arm health but I could never escape the feeling as I watched it, that it's also teaching them how to get a lot more torque out of their body than they could have gotten without it. My theory is that those young arms are getting forces put on them before they are really mature/strong enough to handle it over the long haul.

    Year around play can be mitigated with recommended pitch count adherence (some do/some don't) but that extra couple of degrees of torque over and over again from 8 up is what I think does a lot of the damage.

    Like everyone, it's just a guess and it's just part of it even if I'm right. If anyone actually knew what caused it, they'd fix it.

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    Re: 2024 Reds Injury Updates

    I think there really was something to the olden days in baseball.
    Play ball for 6 months, go paint houses, drink beer and get fat for 5 months. Show up to ST to get in baseball shape, rinse and repeat.


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    Re: 2024 Reds Injury Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc D View Post
    t I could never escape the feeling as I watched it, that it's also teaching them how to get a lot more torque out of their body than they could have gotten without it. My theory is that those young arms are getting forces put on them before they are really mature/strong enough to handle it over the long haul.
    This makes a lot of sense to me.
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    Re: 2024 Reds Injury Updates

    Justin Wilson to IL. Carson Spiers called up for Reds.

    Wilson with shoulder tightness.

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    Re: 2024 Reds Injury Updates

    Has anyone heard any updates on Freidl or CES?


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    Re: 2024 Reds Injury Updates

    All I've read on Friedl is that he will be out several weeks. Likewise with CES (4-6 weeks).
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    Re: 2024 Reds Injury Updates

    Reds should not rush anyone back from injury. Focus on long term. Make sure guys are ready to contribute at high level.

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    Re: 2024 Reds Injury Updates

    May 19: RHP Emilio Pagán, LF Spencer Steer dealing with injuries
    With two outs in the bottom of the ninth inning during a 3-2 loss to the Dodgers, Pagán showed some discomfort after throwing a 1-1 pitch to Jason Heyward. Pagán was lifted from the game and replaced by Alexis Díaz. Pagán complained of trouble with his right triceps, but noted he felt no issues until his last pitch.

    “It felt like my arm just kept going. It wasn’t sharp pain. It wasn’t a grab. It felt like my triceps overstretched right in the middle,” Pagán said.

    A Dodgers doctor examined Pagán and ran him through some tests that left the club optimistic the injury wasn’t serious. He will be seen by Reds doctors on Monday.

    Meanwhile, Spencer Steer was limited to a pinch-hitting appearance on Sunday. He drew a walk in the seventh inning and was lifted for a pinch-runner. Manager David Bell revealed after the game that Steer has been dealing with a sore ankle.

    “He was available for an at-bat. He should be back on Tuesday,” Bell said.
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    Re: 2024 Reds Injury Updates

    Did anyone on the Reds do anything growing up aside from playing video games?

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    Re: 2024 Reds Injury Updates

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    Spencer Steer, who has dealt with an ankle injury and isn’t in the lineup today, said his ankle is good and getting better. He expects to be available off the bench.
    When did this ankle thing happen? I must have missed that

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    Re: 2024 Reds Injury Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by NebraskaRed View Post
    When did this ankle thing happen? I must have missed that
    I posted about it yesterday in this thread

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