CheatedOriginally Posted by Sea Ray
Cheated
What would you say.....ya do here?
Played for a Michigan team that beat Ohio State three times in a row.
And cheated.
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Really not about OSU.
He cheated his way to being a first round pick and made millions doing so. Getting hurt and missing his first year = karma.
What would you say.....ya do here?
I like the guy. I feel bad for him, the Head Coach, Jefferson and Vikings' fans. That's one less year he gets to spend with Jefferson.
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They all cheat.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
and yet nobody has had a scandal like this
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Some are better at it than others.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
I don’t know so much that he cheated. Perhaps his coaches did
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He flat out admitted it during an interview before the playoffs
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uh huh
What would you say.....ya do here?
I doubt he admitted to having an active role in stealing signs
He admitted to knowing what was going on and using it
What would you say.....ya do here?
Fine. That's not on him. If the coaches tell him something he's obligated to use it. He has no choice. You've signaled out the wrong villain here
Kingspoint (08-15-2024),Revering4Blue (08-15-2024)
Oh, I am not singling him out at all. The whole organization was corrupt.
However, I completely disagree he had no choice. Especially in this day in age in college football. "I am entering my name into the transfer portal effective immediately"
Just about every school in the country would have reached out to him. This isn't the army, and even in the army don't have to follow every order. That defense didn't work in Nurnberg, if you recall (and no Boston Red, I am not comparing what Michigan did to the Nazis or the Holocaust).
Its a college football team. He knew what they were doing and he CHOSE to take part.
What would you say.....ya do here?
Kingspoint (08-15-2024)
Why am I catching strays here?
Because I knew what you were going to say if I didn't add that disclaimer lolWhy am I catching strays here?
What would you say.....ya do here?
There is so much truth to this. That I said everybody does it, isn't condoning it. Everyone chooses to be a part of something corrupt or not be a part of something corrupt, to benefit from it or not benefit from it. There are no Saints. Every human being is corrupt. If you're using any product of these companies,...Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Samsung, Coca-Cola, and the list is very long, or if you support a government locally that is hypocritical in what they say and what they do, then you are corrupt. This includes every human being among this group.
To call somebody else out is fine, if you want to, as long as you understand that I could find one thousand things that every person does which is corrupt. Everyone has a line that they personally draw where this is concerned, and the true line of everyone is always miles away from where they think it is. The only one anyone has to answer to is themselves. Trying to measure what hurt one does to someone else can more easily be done from the outside, thus this discussion we are having.
I wish you well in your Crusade, but it's a lonely one. In the end, we all have a lot to answer for.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
RedTeamGo! (08-15-2024)
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