This way, he can stay with the Lakers and practice with them, and then just go and play the G-League games when they are at home. It's a more veteran environment for learning, but gets him some playing time.Originally Posted by Chip R
This way, he can stay with the Lakers and practice with them, and then just go and play the G-League games when they are at home. It's a more veteran environment for learning, but gets him some playing time.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
I agree with everyone about Goga. I think he's a great complement when Banchero is there. He hasn't been productive without him.
Over this stretch of 3 games where the Magic have found their Defense AND Offense and a successful formula for not only winning, but dominating without Banchero, here's the on floor/off floor numbers:
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
Revering4Blue (11-14-2024)
The Magic have been so dominant that even though Goga is 3rd to last on the team, even on the floor, he's got a positive Net Rating of 10.2.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
Revering4Blue (11-14-2024)
Now that the first 10 games of the season have passed, here's a look at the Top-53 4-player lineups ranked by Net Rating (OFF/DEF/NET) that have 50+ minutes together (and covering at least 5 games) with total minutes listed last:
1. Durant/Nurkic/Tyus Jones/O'Neale ... 120.3/79.0/41.3 ... (60)
2. Sabonis/Fox/Monk/Murray ... 130.9/94.7/36.2 ... (67)
3. Gobert/DiVincenzo/NAW/Reid ... 114.5/83.1/31.4 ... (76)
4. DeRozan/Sabonis/Monk/Murray ... 132.9/103.4/29.5 ... (95)
5. Paul/Champagnie/Wembenyama/Castle ... 117.8/88.9/29.0 ... (65)
6. Sabonis/Fox/Murray/Ellis ... 109.3/80.3/29.0 ... (52)
7. LeVert/Niang/Merrill/Mobley ... 121.9/93.0/28.9 ... (52)
8. Durant/Beal/Booker/O'Neale ... 128.7/100.0/28.7 ... (50)
9. DeRozan/Sabonis/Murray/Ellis ... 129.4/100.8/28.6 ... (63)
10. Conley/Gobert/NAW/Reid ... 115.9/88.1/27.8 ... (52)
11. DeRozan/Sabonis/Fox/Monk ... 125.2/97.8/27.4 ... (32)
12. Durant/Jones/Booker/O'Neale ... 115.9/89.8/26.1 ... (62)
13. Paul/Barnes/Champagnie/Castle ... 117.1/91.5/21.6 ... (57)
14. Holiday/Tatum/White/Queta ... 129.4/103.7/25.6 ... (52)
15. Towns/Anunoby/Hart/McBride ... 121.3/96.3/25.0 ... (53)
16. Horford/Tatum/White/Queta ... 126.0/101.0/25.0 ... (51)
17. Paul/Barnes/Wembanyama/Castle ... 114.5/90.5/23.9 ... (71)
18. Barnes/Champagnie/Wembanyama/Castle ... 115.2/91.9/23.3 ... (54)
19. Anunoby/Hart/Brunson/McBride ... 114.4/92.0/22.4 ... (50)
20. Morant/Aldama/Edey/Wells ... 116.7/94.5/22.2 ... (58)
21. James/Russell/Hayes/Knecht ... 125.4/104.3/21.1 ...(54)
22. Jokic/Murray/Porter/Braun ... 136.9/116.1/20.8 ... (168) ... #1 for any 4-man lineup w/ 100+ minutes together
23. Horford/Brown/Tatum/White ... 127.2/106.5/20.7 ... (121) ... #2 for any 4-man lineup w/ 100+ minutes together
24. Conley/DiVincenzo/NAW/Reid ... 113.9/94.5/19.3 ... (53)
25. Jokic/Porter/Braun/Watson ... 136.3/117.8/18.5 ... (100) ... #3 for any 4-man lineup w/ 100+ minutes together
26. Horford/Holiday/Brown/White ... 125.1/106.8/18.3 ...(115) ... #4 for any 4-man lineup w/ 100+ minutes together
27. SGA/Dort/Williams/Wallace ... 120.8/102.8/18.0 ... (95)
28. Horford/Holiday/Brown/Tatum ... 124.2/106.3/17.9 ... (125) ... #5 for any 4-man lineup w/ 100+ minutes together
29. DiVincenzo/NAW/Reid/Edwards ... 118.0/105.5/17.5 ... (94)
30. Conley/Gobert/DiVincenzo/NAW ... 109.0/92.0/17.0 ... (55)
31. Clarke/Aldama/Pippen/Wells ... 110.7/93.7/17.0 ... (50)
32. Gordon/Jokic/Porter/Braun ... 128.1/111.2/16.9 ... (166) ... #6 for any 4-man lineup w/ 100+ minutes
33. Randle/NAW/Reid/Edwards ... 125.2/108.5/16.7 ... (66)
34. Turner/Siakam/Nembhard/Mathurin ... 114.2/97.7/16.5 ... (63)
35. Batum/Dunn/Zubac/Coffey ... 109.0/92.6/16.4 ... (64)
36. Randle/DiVincenzo/NAW/Edwards ... 123.3/106.8/16.4 ... (62)
37. Curry/Green/Wiggins/Payton ... 119.5/103.3/16.2 ... (57)
38. Batum/Dunn/Coffey/Porter ... 107.6/91.6/16.0 ... (101) ... #7 for any 4-man lineup w/ 100+ minutes
39. Bridges/Brunson/McBride/Sims ... 110.0/95.0/15.0 ... (59)
40. Gordon/Murray/Porter/Braun ... 131.7/116.8/14.9 ... (118) ... #8 for any 4-man lineup w/ 100+ minutes
41. Gordon/Jokic/Murray/Braun ... 131.1/116.6/14.5 ... (140) ... #9 for any 4-man lineup w/ 100+ minutes
42. Dort/Holmgren/Williams/Wallace ... 110.0/95.5/14.5 ... (68)
43. Vucevic/LaVine/White/Dosunmu ... 123.2/108.7/14.5 ... (60)
44. Holiday/Brown/Tatum/White ... 120.9/106.5/14.4 ... (142) ... #10 for any 4-man lineup w/ 100+ minutes
45. Siakam/Nembhard/Haliburton/Mathurin ... 115.2/100.8/14.4 ... (61)
46. Randle/DiVincenzo/Reid/Edwards ... 122.0/107.7/14.2 ... (79)
47. Niang/Mitchell/Merrill/Mobley ... 105.8/91.7/14.0 ... (72)
48. Shroder/Finney-Smith/Claxton/Johnson ... 117.9/104.0/13.8 ... (99)
49. Batum/Zubac/Coffey/Porter ... 109.8/96.0/13.8 (60)
50. Gordon/Jokic/Murray/Porter ... 131.7/118.7/13.0 ... (124) ... #11 for any 4-man lineup w/ 100+ minutes
51. Shroder/Finney-Smith/Claxton/Thomas ... 117.7/105.4/12.3 ... (103) ... #12 for any 4-man lineup w/ 100+ minutes
52. Finney-Smith/Johnson/Claxton/Thomas ... 117.7/105.5/12.2 ... (101) ... #13 for any 4-man lineup w/ 100+ minutes
53. DeRozan/Sabonis/Fox/Murray ... 122.4/110.4/12.0 ... (225) ... #14 for any 4-man lineup w/ 100+ minutes
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
If Philadelphia without Embiid, George and Maxey is the team that hands the Cavs their first loss, that would be pretty funny. They've got a 6-point lead at the half. Certainly would reinforce the "any given night" aspect of the league.
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
Kingspoint (11-13-2024)
Not so fast, my friend
Cavs now 13-0. Wild. They are really fun to watch.
What would you say.....ya do here?
M2 (11-13-2024),Redsfaithful (11-14-2024)
As expected, RWIII is not playing in a back-to-back. Guess Ayton's injury was real. He's not playing tonight. No word on the further tests of Anfernee Simons, but he's not playing tonight. To counter, Mike Conley is getting rest tonight.
This means that it will be the same starting five of last night, Grant/Clingan/Camara/Sharpe/Scoot. The major change will be playing time for Jabari Walker and Duop Reath, while Rupert should get a few extra. But, the biggest difference will be the increased minutes by D. B. Hooper, Dalano Banton. I can see him getting 20+ minutes tonight. He's easily the most efficient player this season for the Blazers (can't disregard Grant's 8 Assists last night). Banton runs the Offense so well that the team shoots 38.1% from "3" with Banton on the floor (and when he's on the floor, he's running the Offense), and 30.7% from "3" when he's off the floor. Without Conley to harass Banton and Scoot, this should help offset the loss of RWIII. But, the loss is still too great as MIN's entire team are aggressive Defenders that harass everyone on the floor.
With POR winning last night, MIN will have all the incentive tonight. I definitely expect MIN to play very well tonight. I have no idea what will happen with POR.
Guessing:
MIN 118
POR 104
Hoping for:
MIN 105
POR 108
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
Giannis with a 59-14-7 night in an OT win against the Pistons (who haven't been terrible). And this is why whatever happens in Milwaukee, the one guy who's staying is Giannis.
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
Kingspoint (11-14-2024),Revering4Blue (11-14-2024)
6 games up on the 3 seed on November 13th is crazy.
50 for Wemby tonight - he hit 8 3-pointers.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Kingspoint (11-14-2024),RedTeamGo! (11-14-2024),Revering4Blue (11-14-2024)
In a preview of the 2031 NBA Finals (stop laughing), Wemby hung half a C-note on the Wiz in a 139-130 Spurs win.
"I can make all the stadiums rock."
-Air Supply
M2 (11-14-2024),Revering4Blue (11-14-2024)
...and, on cue, Goga has a great night.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
The Bucks are 2-0 in games started by AJ Green.
Revering4Blue (11-14-2024)
Big night in the Association…
Cavs stay unbeaten.
Giannis drops 59.
Wenby drops 50.
KAT hits a million 3s and goes for 46 but the Knicks lose at home because they play their starters 45 minutes/night.
Of course, I’m more excited about three Rockets going for double-doubles en route to beating the Clippers.
Hot takes:
The Pistons will be a play-in team
OKC will win 60+ games
Thibs will get fired before the end of the season
Cavs won’t hold the 1-seed
Nuggets will end up with the 2nd best record in the West
Last edited by redsfan9988; 11-14-2024 at 12:57 AM.
“… yep”
-Barry Larkin
Kingspoint (11-14-2024),M2 (11-14-2024),Revering4Blue (11-14-2024)
Challenge: without looking, do you know the first names of any of three guys named Jones on the Kings' roster?
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
Absolutely not.
I barely know Sabonis’s first name.
“… yep”
-Barry Larkin
M2 (11-14-2024),Revering4Blue (11-14-2024)
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