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    Re: 6-23-24 Reds vs Red Sox 1:40 PM

    Good swing but not a power hitter


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    Re: 6-23-24 Reds vs Red Sox 1:40 PM

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave C View Post
    Bottom 1/3 of the order has more hits and RBI's than the top 1/3...
    Reds would be ahead if Benson had any clue in the meat of the bottom of the order!

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    Re: 6-23-24 Reds vs Red Sox 1:40 PM

    Quote Originally Posted by LeatherPants View Post
    Benson OPS+ by month


    April/March 106 OPS+ (114 PA's)
    May 107 OPS+ (80 PA's)
    June 27 OPS+ (47 PA's)

    I get that the strikeouts are awful, but he was perfectly fine in April and May. Slumps happen, and there's really nobody down in AAA right now.
    If you swing and miss nothing good is going to happen. Itís not about his OPS+. Itís that Benson cannot make contact.

    They are getting him out on fastballs thrown right by him. His bat is too slow. Maybe he needs a lighter bat.

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    Re: 6-23-24 Reds vs Red Sox 1:40 PM

    Quote Originally Posted by NebraskaRed View Post
    Benson isn't improving. He's not figuring anything out. It's not a slump. I understand there is not someone in AAA who looks great, but Benson is not the answer.
    Being above average for two months and being bad this month is the definition of a slump.

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    Re: 6-23-24 Reds vs Red Sox 1:40 PM

    nice defense

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    Re: 6-23-24 Reds vs Red Sox 1:40 PM

    Since June 8th Benson has 1 hit, Stephen Kwan has 23

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    Re: 6-23-24 Reds vs Red Sox 1:40 PM

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    If you swing and miss nothing good is going to happen. It’s not about his OPS+. It’s that Benson cannot make contact.

    They are getting him out on fastballs thrown right by him. His bat is too slow. Maybe he needs a lighter bat.
    So actual results (OPS+) don't matter? OK.

    I'm not arguing he doesn't suck right now, he's clearly massively slumping, but the idea that he wasn't producing in April and May is just wrong.

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    Re: 6-23-24 Reds vs Red Sox 1:40 PM

    Quote Originally Posted by LeatherPants View Post
    So actual results (OPS+) don't matter? OK.

    I'm not arguing he doesn't suck right now, he's clearly massively slumping, but the idea that he wasn't producing in April and May is just wrong.
    In March/Aoril Benson struck out 39.5%

    In May Benson struck out 36.3%

    In June he’s struck out 44.7%

    If you strike out that much eventually your numbers will collapse. It just doesn’t allow enough contact to succeed.

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    Re: 6-23-24 Reds vs Red Sox 1:40 PM

    Steer is trying the great approach on those pitches but a reminder that baseball is hard….but his swings were right

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    Re: 6-23-24 Reds vs Red Sox 1:40 PM

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    In March/Aoril Benson struck out 39.5%

    In May Benson struck out 36.3%

    In June he’s struck out 44.7%

    If you strike out that much eventually your numbers will collapse. It just doesn’t allow enough contact to succeed.
    Benson either needs to go back to the minors or DFA'd. He is quite obviously no help at all now.
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    Re: 6-23-24 Reds vs Red Sox 1:40 PM

    Quote Originally Posted by LeatherPants View Post
    So actual results (OPS+) don't matter? OK.

    I'm not arguing he doesn't suck right now, he's clearly massively slumping, but the idea that he wasn't producing in April and May is just wrong.
    I'd buy the "it's just a big slump" defense if I saw any improvement. Or that he has suffered particularly bad luck. But I haven't seen anything like that.

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    Re: 6-23-24 Reds vs Red Sox 1:40 PM

    Honestly, it’s not just the stats. Anyone with working eyeballs can see benson is cooked. This isn’t a slump, league adjusted and he’s toast.
    What would you say.....ya do here?

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    Re: 6-23-24 Reds vs Red Sox 1:40 PM

    protesters attack the green in the final hole of the golf tournament

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    Re: 6-23-24 Reds vs Red Sox 1:40 PM

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    In March/Aoril Benson struck out 39.5%

    In May Benson struck out 36.3%

    In June he’s struck out 44.7%

    If you strike out that much eventually your numbers will collapse. It just doesn’t allow enough contact to succeed.
    Schwarber the extreme success case with 36.7% k rate last year but OPS still .813

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    Re: 6-23-24 Reds vs Red Sox 1:40 PM

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
    Schwarber the extreme success case with 36.7% k rate last year but OPS still .813
    29.9% k-rate. And that’s with a 92.2 exit velo and 50% hart hit rate. Benson’s EV is 4mph less.


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