Who is making the Reds in game decisions?

[LiferJim]

I agree with this. i think specific in-game decisions are left to him and his coaches according to the personnel he has available. The front office tells him which players are available for a certain game.



And I agree with this too. However, if the personnel doesn't change and the front office doesn't change, what makes anyone think they will improve in that area even with a new manager/coaches?

That’s a very valid point and I personally think nothing will change until a whole house cleaning happens. This would include the manager, the front office, and some very non productive players. Who knows if any of that will ever happen


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[Boston Red]

MIT has a baseball team, by the way (a respectable 17-20 last year). So it's possible to be a "nerd" and play ball.

[Kc61]

I agree with this. i think specific in-game decisions are left to him and his coaches according to the personnel he has available. The front office tells him which players are available for a certain game.



And I agree with this too. However, if the personnel doesn't change and the front office doesn't change, what makes anyone think they will improve in that area even with a new manager/coaches?

Front office undoubtedly tells Bell more than who’s available. I’m sure they give him guidance or direction about player usage. Decisions to continue to use Benson when he was struggling for so long - or to play Marte every day at third. I’m sure FO was involved in those kinds of calls.

Bell, I’d expect, implements these more general decisions. For example, I doubt the front office tells him when to pinch hit for Fairchild with Fraley. I doubt the front office tells him what reliever to put in during the ballgame.

[Ironman92]

Just found this one, and David Bell is actually mentioned. It’s about “load management” for players. Resting players based on how far they run during a game (or a week or a month)

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...-rock-baseball

The craziest thing. So he had 3 singles and stole 4 bases….he sits, strikeout 4x and plays

[klw]

I'd really like to know everyone's opinion on what they think. I hear many on here say managers don't matter in today's game. Well, how are in game decisions made? By Krall? By the analytics department? A computer? Some secret Reds god of analytics? Bell and the coaches? A combination? A printed out paper before every game? What says the board?

Al Haig is in charge.


( joke for old folk)

[GAC]

If I was Bell, and it was the front office making those asinine lineups definitely question them on it, which he might, but I doubt it. Bell is probably a "yes man" if he indeed has no input like some think. I personally think he has input and agrees with the lineups and bullpen usage.

I don't know what to think; but also really don't care any more (lol), as to who is the decision-making body, the "man behind the curtain". The bottom-line is that this organization, this team, has sucked for quite some time, sorely lacking in quality.

If the FO management is making all the decisions, then what justification do they have for firing a manger who followed orders; but the team still missed the post-season?

What do you think about the Reds? Are they like the Angels and ran exclusively by the front office/analytics team, or do you think it's shared between them, and Bell and his coaches?

I always thought it was the role of management to assemble the analytics department, who then gathers the data that is then fed to the coaching staff to aid in them making the best decisions during game-time. Like Spock was Kirk's RH man. Kirk was there to inject the human element into the scenario.

[GAC]

MIT has a baseball team, by the way (a respectable 17-20 last year). So it's possible to be a "nerd" and play ball.

Just not very well? lol

[CesarGeronimo]

I don't know what to think; but also really don't care any more (lol), as to who is the decision-making body, the "man behind the curtain". The bottom-line is that this organization, this team, has sucked for quite some time, sorely lacking in quality.

If the FO management is making all the decisions, then what justification do they have for firing a manger who followed orders; but the team still missed the post-season?

It's management's job to make the hard decisions and hold people accountable for results. Krall is going to have to drop the hammer - on himself.

[Tony Cloninger]

Then they will never fire Bell if he’s implementing who he has to play when it doesn’t make sense. Espinal at 3B is the best call for a month now. Or until Espinal shows he can’t maintain his hot streak or more sensibly not hit below 200. Just on the fact that he can hit over 200. Hit with more power than Marte while fielding like a GG. That’s just an easy call. He’s not some old vet. He’s not expensive. What good does it do to let Marte continue to flail and lose confidence? Don’t BS me and tell me you are trying to win by doing this. You’re not. Clearly. Same with Benson but more of an issue of no one to replace him with because Jake has had personal and health concerns.

That’s the part I don’t like. You don’t tell me you are trying to win by doing this. These analytical personnel all over basically are like Situ Lords. Deal in absolutes. Numbers don’t lie. Most posters on here are also very advanced in numbers speak and advanced stats. Some go over my head and you can’t argue with the numbers. So if this guys numbers say he’s not as good then it’s a forgone conclusion.

If the managers like Baker. Pinella. Boone. Whoever was here before they would have played Espinal until he ran into the ground or close to it. They were trying to win and if they had to use Rich Aurellia over Felipe López to do it. They would. Buck Farmer would have been used more in high leverage situations at this point and Cruz would have been buried or in AAA.

The Reds numbers don’t seem to be working though. They’re analytical department either has bad intel or it is Bell making more decisions on his own. Not very good ones either.

[Roy Tucker]

MIT has a baseball team, by the way (a respectable 17-20 last year). So it's possible to be a "nerd" and play ball.

[GAC]

It's management's job to make the hard decisions and hold people accountable for results. Krall is going to have to drop the hammer - on himself.

True. The rash of injuries in '24 to position players will save him IF they don't make the post-season IMO.

[GAC]

Tnat's a classic Roy!

[Kingspoint]

Judging by the mental errors throughout the active roster on a day-to-day basis, I'd say the players are making the in-game decisions as the lack of fundamentals is the only thing that is consistent about this team, other than staying within 10-games under .500 for an incredibly long time.

[Kingspoint]

I think a lot of Bell's terrible decisions are coming from organizational philosophy and I think many of the pitching decisions are on Johnson, but I'd be surprised if anyone other than Bell is making out the batting order. He may be playing certain players in certain roles based on front office directives, but I'd be shocked if some one else is deciding who hit's first, who hits clean-up and who hits 9th.

IMO, the crazy line-ups are on Bell, but I don't think they make a huge difference in the game.

At the end of the day, they need to replace Krall and whoever replaces him needs to go out and make some significant changes to the players on the roster. Worrying about Bell is like blaming your car's performance on a small crack in the windshield while the engine is falling apart. Ideally, you'd fix the crack in the windshield, but until you find a good mechanic who can overhaul the engine, the car is still going to sputter down the street and get stuck on the side of the road a lot.

And then there's expectations.

Anyone who is at least 50 years old has seen so much losing, continuous losing based on poor financial/asset management, that individually it's very easy to recognize when the organization/G.M. does things right, and adding all of those moments up, give the organization more leeway when it comes to "maybe next season". Eventually, it leads to apathy and this Ownership expects that and places their efforts towards the next generation of suckers they can ride for 20 years.

[jedwards]

Wow, Krall should tell the fans what they all do and when.