“Never tell me the odds” kind of oddsOriginally Posted by Boston Red
“Never tell me the odds” kind of odds
What would you say.....ya do here?
To answer the first, its a good question. Most of my recruiting stuff comes from Birm on The Podcast and that rivals network. I find him to be the best, pretty even keeled reporter in recruiting. He has said that if the only thing a recruit cares about is NIL, then the likelihood of that recruit going to OSU is pretty small. Until there is some agreed upon legislation, NIL will continue to be the wild wild west.
Overall I do think a program like OSU is going to win most recruiting battles when it comes to being able to create a NIL package. I do think more and more you will see teams within a range of total NIL spent on a team. I have heard Sanders is a generational prospect who will be a #1 draft pick after his Jr season, so it make sense to roll out the bank for him. I think if you do it too much (I am looking at you Miami) it won't work.
Birm has been wrong A LOT the last couple of years. He has not adjusted to NIL era at all.
What would you say.....ya do here?
NIL sucks but schools like Ohio State will be fine. It's schools like UC, IU and Wisconsin that'll suffer. It's really going to hurt parity. College football could become MLB in terms of parity. One school is spending $100 million on its players while another might be spending $5mill
I disagree about it hurting the likes of UC, IU, Wisconsin. As long as they keep the scholarship limits in place there is only so many players the big boys can sign with NIL. The same players are getting signed by the same teams they always have. It's not like OSU's classes look much different than they did prior to NIL.
Wisconsin, UC, IU, etc will continue to recruit and sign the same quality of players they always have. UC will actually recruit better players than they historically have because of moving to the big 12. Wisconsin will continue to be an 8-10 win team that can upset the big boys every once in awhile.
IU will continue to suck.
What would you say.....ya do here?
UC wasn't competing much with OSU anyway but now if they get Kelce-like recruits they won't stay. They'll leave for bigger bucks.
Jason Kelce was a 6th round draft pick, I doubt he leaves UC for OSU because I just don't know if the demand would have been there for him. Travis was a 3rd rounder but really didn't do much until his 5th year at UC.
I think where a program like UC needs to continue to recruit the way they do, but also there is the opportunity to be active in the portal, bringing in guys who may have been 2nd or 3rd stringers at OSU or Michigan and allow them to start at UC. Get a guy who spent 3 years at OSU, but has two years of eligibility remaining, that guy could be a major asset to a program like UC rather than being a special teamer at OSU.
I have no clue what UC's NIL looks like, they should benefit from playing in Cincinnati where there are multiple fortune 500 companies and a pretty large city compared to the rest of college football.
I think the transfer rules will hurt the smaller teams moreso than the NIL deals. However, because of the transfer rules these kinds of schools can bring in 2nd stringers from the big boys that are quality players but want to get on the field. Before they would just stay on OSU waiting for their turn and getting their degrees.
What would you say.....ya do here?
Scholarships are getting bumped from 85 to 105, which is going to have a big effect.
That's so ridiculous, honestly.
What would you say.....ya do here?
And at the same time walk-ons are going to be eliminated, unless you simply don't spend all 105 of your scholarships, but no major school is going to do that. Rosters will be capped at 105. I believe this is only taking effect at a Power 4 level, but I might be wrong on that.
The NIL allows more upward movement. Not too much downward.
"In my day you had musicians who experimented with drugs. Now it's druggies experimenting with music" - Alfred G Clark (circa 1972)
I don't know about that. OSU got Judkins, Downs, Howard, McLaughlin, a TE, and a backup S. They lost a total of 25 players to the portal after last season. Some made sense, they weren't going to be in the two deep. Others transferred because there was more NIL money at a different school than OSU was going to offer them.
I would argue that the transfer portal has been good to those fringe players. Guys who may have been 3rd on the depth chart but found a place to start and make NIL money. OSU took from one non power 4 program this past off season.
I think the portal and NIL can be good for college football. It can allow players to make better decisions based upon their future and not money in the moment. If you profile as a 6th rounder, but can improve your draft stock to maybe a 3rd rounder while making money in college, thats a good thing. OSU's top CB Denzel Burke talked about his draft grade and noting the difference if he makes it into the 1st round.
Two local Cincinnati guys, Joe Royer and Jakob James both spent 3 seasons at OSU, fell behind on the depth chart, then transferred to lesser schools (UC and Toledo) and will be immediate starters.
FWIW I think right now the players have too much power in the pendulum of NIL. There needs to be limits on transferring, and these NIL deals have to come with strings attached.
Why are they doing that?
Does the NFL allow all their players to basically become free agents at the conclusion of each season? Needs limitations, needs reigned in.
"In my day you had musicians who experimented with drugs. Now it's druggies experimenting with music" - Alfred G Clark (circa 1972)
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